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[Mark Kohut]

I've always had a bias against Fowles after I did read, when young The Aristos first. Or some of it. Derivative and pretentious I thought pretentiously. So, I avoided him. ( I remember one unpretentious story in that volume of a novella and stories. 

And a guy I respected, Martin-Seymour Smith, once said the real artist in the town Fowles famously lived was Richard Hughes. He lived at the bottom of the hill where Fowles rested on top. 




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> On Mar 20, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> I loved The Magus when I first read it in the early 1970s,  my young self was totally awed.  But then Fowles rewrote it because he said (at the time) that he was too young to write it when he did.  So I read the new version (1977) and didn’t really see much difference. 
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> Then I read the revised version again in 200? - at that point all the early versions were no longer available but I found one at the library to compare.  There was very little difference, imo.  I think the “difference” might have been that Fowles connected the old Greek themes more firmly into the story - don’t remember.  
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> I wasn’t nearly as happy with The French Lieutenant’s Woman because of what I felt to be the winky-wink showmanship in the self-reflexive parts.  The Collector was pretty fun - 
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> Daniel Martin was totally boring when I read it in the early 1980s,  it was just much more subtle.  I liked it better a couple decades later with more reading experience under my belt.  
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> Becky 
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>> On Mar 20, 2015, at 3:58 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I did not read The Magus when younger, but just in recent years and I thought it a powerful portrait of an intellectual asshole. so to speak. Could not " buy" an ounce of his quest, but I'm sure that was a projective bias. 
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>>> On Mar 20, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Thomas Eckhardt <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
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>>> I remember that I liked "The Magus" well enough but much preferred "The French Lieutenant's Woman."
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>>>> Am 20.03.2015 um 01:50 schrieb Mark Thibodeau:
>>>> Ooh! ARGs! Such fertile ground for truly evil mischief.
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>>>> I imagine many here have read Fowles' The Magus? I wonder how highly
>>>> that brick of a tome is regarded by the Pynchon Listers, generally
>>>> speaking. Personally, I thoroughly enjoyed about 2/3 of it - found it
>>>> completely enchanting, even - while finding 1/3 (mostly around the
>>>> beginning and the end) turgid and plodding and pointless.
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>>>> MT
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>>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:mark.kohut at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>>>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_reality_game#Possible_inspirations_from_fiction_and_other_art_forms
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