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[Danny Weltman]

The Magus dragged on a bit, but like Mark I think it's "a powerful portrait
of an intellectual asshole" and the ending is pretty wonderful. I think all
the symbolism and wackiness gets in the way of the emotion, but it can be
pretty evocative at times - I really felt like I was at that island.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:58 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've always had a bias against Fowles after I did read, when young The
> Aristos first. Or some of it. Derivative and pretentious I thought
> pretentiously. So, I avoided him. ( I remember one unpretentious story in
> that volume of a novella and stories.
>
> And a guy I respected, Martin-Seymour Smith, once said the real artist in
> the town Fowles famously lived was Richard Hughes. He lived at the bottom
> of the hill where Fowles rested on top.
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Mar 20, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > I loved The Magus when I first read it in the early 1970s,  my young
> self was totally awed.  But then Fowles rewrote it because he said (at the
> time) that he was too young to write it when he did.  So I read the new
> version (1977) and didn’t really see much difference.
> >
> > Then I read the revised version again in 200? - at that point all the
> early versions were no longer available but I found one at the library to
> compare.  There was very little difference, imo.  I think the “difference”
> might have been that Fowles connected the old Greek themes more firmly into
> the story - don’t remember.
> >
> > I wasn’t nearly as happy with The French Lieutenant’s Woman because of
> what I felt to be the winky-wink showmanship in the self-reflexive parts.
> The Collector was pretty fun -
> >
> > Daniel Martin was totally boring when I read it in the early 1980s,  it
> was just much more subtle.  I liked it better a couple decades later with
> more reading experience under my belt.
> >
> > Becky
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 20, 2015, at 3:58 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I did not read The Magus when younger, but just in recent years and I
> thought it a powerful portrait of an intellectual asshole. so to speak.
> Could not " buy" an ounce of his quest, but I'm sure that was a projective
> bias.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>> On Mar 20, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Thomas Eckhardt <
> thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I remember that I liked "The Magus" well enough but much preferred
> "The French Lieutenant's Woman."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Am 20.03.2015 um 01:50 schrieb Mark Thibodeau:
> >>>> Ooh! ARGs! Such fertile ground for truly evil mischief.
> >>>>
> >>>> I imagine many here have read Fowles' The Magus? I wonder how highly
> >>>> that brick of a tome is regarded by the Pynchon Listers, generally
> >>>> speaking. Personally, I thoroughly enjoyed about 2/3 of it - found it
> >>>> completely enchanting, even - while finding 1/3 (mostly around the
> >>>> beginning and the end) turgid and plodding and pointless.
> >>>>
> >>>> MT
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
> >>>> <mailto:mark.kohut at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_reality_game#Possible_inspirations_from_fiction_and_other_art_forms
> >>>>  -
> >>>>  Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> -
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> >
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