in Which CofL49 appears.

[jochen stremmel]

>I really felt like I was at that island<

What helps is drinking Ouzo while reading it.

2015-03-20 17:12 GMT+01:00 Danny Weltman <danny.weltman at gmail.com>:

> The Magus dragged on a bit, but like Mark I think it's "a powerful
> portrait of an intellectual asshole" and the ending is pretty wonderful. I
> think all the symbolism and wackiness gets in the way of the emotion, but
> it can be pretty evocative at times - I really felt like I was at that
> island.
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:58 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've always had a bias against Fowles after I did read, when young The
>> Aristos first. Or some of it. Derivative and pretentious I thought
>> pretentiously. So, I avoided him. ( I remember one unpretentious story in
>> that volume of a novella and stories.
>>
>> And a guy I respected, Martin-Seymour Smith, once said the real artist in
>> the town Fowles famously lived was Richard Hughes. He lived at the bottom
>> of the hill where Fowles rested on top.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On Mar 20, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I loved The Magus when I first read it in the early 1970s,  my young
>> self was totally awed.  But then Fowles rewrote it because he said (at the
>> time) that he was too young to write it when he did.  So I read the new
>> version (1977) and didn’t really see much difference.
>> >
>> > Then I read the revised version again in 200? - at that point all the
>> early versions were no longer available but I found one at the library to
>> compare.  There was very little difference, imo.  I think the “difference”
>> might have been that Fowles connected the old Greek themes more firmly into
>> the story - don’t remember.
>> >
>> > I wasn’t nearly as happy with The French Lieutenant’s Woman because of
>> what I felt to be the winky-wink showmanship in the self-reflexive parts.
>> The Collector was pretty fun -
>> >
>> > Daniel Martin was totally boring when I read it in the early 1980s,  it
>> was just much more subtle.  I liked it better a couple decades later with
>> more reading experience under my belt.
>> >
>> > Becky
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Mar 20, 2015, at 3:58 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I did not read The Magus when younger, but just in recent years and I
>> thought it a powerful portrait of an intellectual asshole. so to speak.
>> Could not " buy" an ounce of his quest, but I'm sure that was a projective
>> bias.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPad
>> >>
>> >>> On Mar 20, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Thomas Eckhardt <
>> thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I remember that I liked "The Magus" well enough but much preferred
>> "The French Lieutenant's Woman."
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Am 20.03.2015 um 01:50 schrieb Mark Thibodeau:
>> >>>> Ooh! ARGs! Such fertile ground for truly evil mischief.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I imagine many here have read Fowles' The Magus? I wonder how highly
>> >>>> that brick of a tome is regarded by the Pynchon Listers, generally
>> >>>> speaking. Personally, I thoroughly enjoyed about 2/3 of it - found it
>> >>>> completely enchanting, even - while finding 1/3 (mostly around the
>> >>>> beginning and the end) turgid and plodding and pointless.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> MT
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
>> >>>> <mailto:mark.kohut at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_reality_game#Possible_inspirations_from_fiction_and_other_art_forms
>> >>>>  -
>> >>>>  Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >> -
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