Movie: Inherent Vice
David Morris
fqmorris at gmail.com
Mon May 25 19:12:17 CDT 2015
Double Bad!
On Monday, May 25, 2015, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
> Born Irish, raised Polish.
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:01 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > It's good to have protagonists. I'm very Irish, true to my
> > bombastic/combative nature, loving debate as if it were a surgical video
> > battle, so please pardon my ire. Cherish your someones.
> >
> > David Morris
> >
> > On Monday, May 25, 2015, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Not me. This is somoen who took my preference for ELO to Steely Dan
> >> (despite her being a big pop music fan, + my admitting that SD is the
> >> "better" band, I just enjoy my major-chord pop record, is all--was
> >> called "an emotional terrorist," cut off for another couple of weeks.
> >> For example). But she just moved back to town (her husband works from
> >> home, can live pretty much anywhere), going w/ her + the kids to
> >> http://county.milwaukee.gov/MitchellParkConserva10116.htm tomorrow.
> >>
> >> Here's my (un)god kids, by the way (parents ex-Catholic atheists):
> >>
> >> Star Wars "Machete Order" reviewed by 6 & 8-year-old boys.
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.lifebeforethedinosaurs.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://about.flipboard.com/inside-flipboard/on-the-red-couch-art-capps-of-life-before-the-dinosaurs/
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:41 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> > Dave, you and she take your fiction WAY too seriously.
> >> >
> >> > David Morris
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Monday, May 25, 2015, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I actually recommended to a friend that she see the movie 1st, as it
> >> >> streamlines the plot(s)/theme(s) well (enough). So she of course
> read
> >> >> the book 1st, + immediately started arguing w/ me four sentences in
> >> >> (so, again, if anyone has definitive proof of the existence of a
> >> >> Conutry Joe & The Fish t-shirt [as eventually seen in the movie,
> >> >> albeit more of a gig poster printed on a shirt, w/ Iron Butterfly et
> >> >> al. ...]). I ultimately noted that, well, everybody can make a
> >> >> mistake (which Pynchon does in IV, calling Lew Alcindor Kareem Abdul
> >> >> Jabbar a season too early), but made the fatal faux pas of sending
> >> >> along a site enumerating the mathematical mistakes in Infinite Jest
> >> >> (her Big Novel of choice, that + The Man without Qualities [q.v.]).
> >> >> Took it as a personal attack (which apparently going after my
> favorite
> >> >> author wasn't ... but I'm obviously used to bickering about Pynchon,
> >> >> so ...). Shoulda gone w/ Wm. S's shores o' Bohemia ...
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:01 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Yes. The "makes sense" aspect does make it *less* Pynchonian. But
> >> >> > that's
> >> >> > OK.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Monday, May 25, 2015, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The movie is a neater, more streamlined version of the book. Made
> >> >> >> total sense to me, ie there were no loose ends or cryptic
> signifiers
> >> >> >> that left me scratching my head. Seriously don't get the reviewers
> >> >> >> who
> >> >> >> said 'not getting it is the point!'
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Then again, all of this kind of makes it *less* Pynchonian, but
> >> >> >> still
> >> >> >> kinda more enjoyable than the book itself imho.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Dave Monroe
> >> >> >> <against.the.dave at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/inherent-vice-from-page-to-screen-the-6-biggest-changes-from-the-book-20141215
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/12/19/inherent_vice_book_vs_movie_how_pynchon_s_novel_paul_thomas_anderson_s_movie.html
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 4:49 PM, David Morris <
> fqmorris at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> I just now saw IV movie on DVD. I liked it a lot. Might the
> >> >> >> >> movie
> >> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> >> better
> >> >> >> >> than the book? Is there a source that judges how close the
> movie
> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> book
> >> >> >> >> compare? Still, it felt a lot like Pynchon to me.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> David Morris
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > -
> >> >> >> > Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>
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