Movie: Inherent Vice

[Dave Monroe]

Only people more Catholic than the Italians + the Mexicans.

On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:12 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> Double Bad!
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> On Monday, May 25, 2015, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Born Irish, raised Polish.
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>> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:01 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > It's good to have protagonists. I'm very Irish, true to my
>> > bombastic/combative nature, loving debate as if it were a surgical video
>> > battle, so please pardon my ire. Cherish your someones.
>> >
>> > David Morris
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>> > On Monday, May 25, 2015, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Not me.  This is somoen who took my preference for ELO to Steely Dan
>> >> (despite her being a big pop music fan, + my admitting that  SD is the
>> >> "better" band, I just enjoy my major-chord pop record, is all--was
>> >> called "an emotional terrorist," cut off for another couple of weeks.
>> >> For example).  But she just moved back to town (her husband works from
>> >> home, can live pretty much anywhere), going w/ her + the kids to
>> >> http://county.milwaukee.gov/MitchellParkConserva10116.htm tomorrow.
>> >>
>> >> Here's my (un)god kids, by the way (parents ex-Catholic atheists):
>> >>
>> >> Star Wars "Machete Order" reviewed by 6 & 8-year-old boys.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://www.lifebeforethedinosaurs.com
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>> >> https://about.flipboard.com/inside-flipboard/on-the-red-couch-art-capps-of-life-before-the-dinosaurs/
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>> >> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:41 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Dave, you and she take your fiction WAY too seriously.
>> >> >
>> >> > David Morris
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Monday, May 25, 2015, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I actually recommended to a friend that she see the movie 1st, as it
>> >> >> streamlines the plot(s)/theme(s) well (enough).  So she of course
>> >> >> read
>> >> >> the book 1st, + immediately started arguing w/ me four sentences in
>> >> >> (so, again, if anyone has definitive proof of the existence of a
>> >> >> Conutry Joe & The Fish  t-shirt [as eventually seen in the movie,
>> >> >> albeit more of a gig poster printed on a shirt, w/ Iron Butterfly et
>> >> >> al. ...]).  I ultimately noted that, well, everybody can make a
>> >> >> mistake (which Pynchon does in IV, calling Lew Alcindor Kareem Abdul
>> >> >> Jabbar a season too early), but made the fatal faux pas of sending
>> >> >> along a site enumerating the mathematical mistakes in Infinite Jest
>> >> >> (her Big Novel of choice, that + The Man without Qualities [q.v.]).
>> >> >> Took it as a personal attack (which apparently going after my
>> >> >> favorite
>> >> >> author wasn't ... but I'm obviously used to bickering about Pynchon,
>> >> >> so ...).  Shoulda gone w/ Wm. S's shores o' Bohemia ...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:01 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > Yes. The "makes sense" aspect does make it *less* Pynchonian. But
>> >> >> > that's
>> >> >> > OK.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Monday, May 25, 2015, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The movie is a neater, more streamlined version of the book. Made
>> >> >> >> total sense to me, ie there were no loose ends or cryptic
>> >> >> >> signifiers
>> >> >> >> that left me scratching my head. Seriously don't get the
>> >> >> >> reviewers
>> >> >> >> who
>> >> >> >> said 'not getting it is the point!'
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Then again, all of this kind of makes it *less* Pynchonian, but
>> >> >> >> still
>> >> >> >> kinda more enjoyable than the book itself imho.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Dave Monroe
>> >> >> >> <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
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>> >> >> >> > http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/inherent-vice-from-page-to-screen-the-6-biggest-changes-from-the-book-20141215
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>> >> >> >> > http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/12/19/inherent_vice_book_vs_movie_how_pynchon_s_novel_paul_thomas_anderson_s_movie.html
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>> >> >> >> > On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 4:49 PM, David Morris
>> >> >> >> > <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> I just now saw IV movie on DVD.  I liked it a lot. Might the
>> >> >> >> >> movie
>> >> >> >> >> be
>> >> >> >> >> better
>> >> >> >> >> than the book?  Is there a source that judges how close the
>> >> >> >> >> movie
>> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> book
>> >> >> >> >> compare? Still, it felt a lot like Pynchon to me.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> David Morris
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