Bleeding Edge, pp. 312-313

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Mon Nov 16 11:56:44 CST 2015


http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/11/president-obamas-air-campaign-against-isis

By popular demand, here is a chart version of last night's post about the
French airstrike on Sunday vs. the ongoing coalition air campaign. Note
that we've dropped a total of about 28,000 bombs and missiles over the past
year, and so far the effect has been real but modest. There's just a limit
to what air power can do, especially in a region like northern Iraq.


On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com> wrote:

> Back in the 50s when (some) people thought nuclear annihilation wasn't
> far from actually happening, I wondered (not aloud), if I were
> president and facing Soviet attack whether I might best decide--OK you
> guys win, why incinerate two countries?
>
> Just daydreaming here.  Time for my nap.
>
> Old P
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:21 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> > You gotta wonder if France's bombing now makes any real sense, why hadn't
> > they bombed these place before the Paris attacks.
> >
> > David Morris
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> It's an impossible situation. Bombing makes things worse. Long live
> >> bombing.
> >>
> >> P
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:03 AM, David Kilroy <
> thesaintgodard at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > These 'losers' are indoctrinated and brainwashed same as any marine
> >> > sniper. As damaged, in their way, as any Starkweather. To simplify
> >> > them as Losers is too 2-D, too subjective, too dismissive. These
> >> > people, their worldview, has to be understood to be effectively
> >> > opposed. Not everyone who opts for celibacy hates sex. Sex is life but
> >> > it isn't the only reason to live. Additionally it's a fair bet the
> >> > bombers wanked as much as anyone. The 100 percent celibate is very,
> >> > very rare. Masturbation may be self-love but it's hardly a substitute
> >> > for empathy. Empathy is what's damaged in these killers: they're
> >> > taught to not see humanity but an evidence of humanity's failure in
> >> > the eyes of Allah. WE are the 'losers' to them: we are the Them to
> >> > their Us. Sex alone cannot cure that psychosis.
> >> >
> >> > On 11/16/15, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Even the losers get lucky sometimes. But these losers, boys for the
> >> >> most
> >> >> part, don't get that, so they hate themselves, hate women, hate sex,
> >> >> and
> >> >> sport, and rock and roll and restaurants and good food and drink,
> and a
> >> >> good time. How unfortunate. To aggrandize the anxiety of these
> losers,
> >> >> to
> >> >> make them ideological spokesmen of the Palestinian plight, the
> >> >> Post-Colonial rebound, the effect of Orientalists and Oil, is silly.
> >> >> These
> >> >> boys are losers. Masturbation may have prevented this, and a good
> night
> >> >> out
> >> >> and some sex would have surely.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Jochen Stremmel <
> jstremmel at gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Come now, you who say,
> >> >>> <https://biblia.com/bible/esv/Jas4.13-15#footnote1>“Today
> >> >>> or tomorrow we will go into such and such a town and spend a year
> >> >>> there
> >> >>> and
> >> >>> trade and make a profit”— yet you do not know what tomorrow will
> >> >>> bring.
> >> >>> What is your life? For
> >> >>> <https://biblia.com/bible/esv/Jas4.13-15#footnote2>you
> >> >>> are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes. Instead
> >> >>> you
> >> >>> ought to say, <https://biblia.com/bible/esv/Jas4.13-15#footnote3
> >“If
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> Lord wills, we will live and do this or that.”
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 2015-11-16 11:12 GMT+01:00 Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Hm.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 5:02 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen <
> >> >>>> lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>    In the taxi on the way home, there's loud traffic in Arabic on
> >> >>>>> the
> >> >>>>> radio, which Maxine figures at first for a call-in show till the
> >> >>>>> cabbie
> >> >>>>> picks up a handset and joins in. She glances at the ID up on the
> >> >>>>> Plexiglas.
> >> >>>>> The face in the photo is too indistinct to make out, but the name
> is
> >> >>>>> Islamic, Mohammed somebody.
> >> >>>>>    It's like hearing a party from another room, though Maxine
> >> >>>>> notices
> >> >>>>> there's no music, no laughing. High emotion all right, but closer
> to
> >> >>>>> tears
> >> >>>>> or anger. Men talking over each other, shouting, interrupting. A
> >> >>>>> couple
> >> >>>>> of
> >> >>>>> the voices might be women's, though later it will seem they could
> >> >>>>> have
> >> >>>>> belonged to high-pitched men. The only word Maxine recognizes, and
> >> >>>>> she
> >> >>>>> hears it more than once, is *Inshallah*. "Arabic for 'whatever,'"
> >> >>>>> Horst
> >> >>>>> nods.
> >> >>>>>    They're waiting at a light. "If it is God's will," the driver
> >> >>>>> corrects him, half turning in his seat so that Maxine happens to
> be
> >> >>>>> looking
> >> >>>>> him in the face. What she sees there will keep her from getting to
> >> >>>>> sleep
> >> >>>>> right away. Or that's how she'll remember it.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
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