Bleeding Edge, pp. 312-313

[David Morris]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/05/wikileaks-cables-saudi-terrorist-funding

Saudi Arabia is the world's largest source of funds for Islamist militant
groups such as the Afghan Taliban and Lashkar-e-Taiba – but the Saudi
government is reluctant to stem the flow of money, according to Hillary
Clinton. "More needs to be done since Saudi Arabia remains a critical
financial support base for al-Qaida, the Taliban, LeT and other terrorist
groups," says a secret December 2009 paper signed by the US secretary of
state. Her memo urged US diplomats to redouble their efforts to stop Gulf
money reaching extremists in Pakistan and Afghanistan. "Donors in Saudi
Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist
groups worldwide," she said. Three other Arab countries are listed as
sources of militant money: Qatar, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates. The
cables highlight an often ignored factor in the Pakistani and Afghan
conflicts: that the violence is partly bankrolled by rich, conservative
donors across the Arabian Sea whose governments do little to stop them. The
problem is particularly acute in Saudi Arabia, where militants soliciting
funds slip into the country disguised as holy pilgrims, set up front
companies to launder funds and receive money from government-sanctioned
charities.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:56 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/11/president-obamas-air-campaign-against-isis
>
> By popular demand, here is a chart version of last night's post about the
> French airstrike on Sunday vs. the ongoing coalition air campaign. Note
> that we've dropped a total of about 28,000 bombs and missiles over the past
> year, and so far the effect has been real but modest. There's just a limit
> to what air power can do, especially in a region like northern Iraq.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Back in the 50s when (some) people thought nuclear annihilation wasn't
>> far from actually happening, I wondered (not aloud), if I were
>> president and facing Soviet attack whether I might best decide--OK you
>> guys win, why incinerate two countries?
>>
>> Just daydreaming here.  Time for my nap.
>>
>> Old P
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:21 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > You gotta wonder if France's bombing now makes any real sense, why
>> hadn't
>> > they bombed these place before the Paris attacks.
>> >
>> > David Morris
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It's an impossible situation. Bombing makes things worse. Long live
>> >> bombing.
>> >>
>> >> P
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:03 AM, David Kilroy <
>> thesaintgodard at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > These 'losers' are indoctrinated and brainwashed same as any marine
>> >> > sniper. As damaged, in their way, as any Starkweather. To simplify
>> >> > them as Losers is too 2-D, too subjective, too dismissive. These
>> >> > people, their worldview, has to be understood to be effectively
>> >> > opposed. Not everyone who opts for celibacy hates sex. Sex is life
>> but
>> >> > it isn't the only reason to live. Additionally it's a fair bet the
>> >> > bombers wanked as much as anyone. The 100 percent celibate is very,
>> >> > very rare. Masturbation may be self-love but it's hardly a substitute
>> >> > for empathy. Empathy is what's damaged in these killers: they're
>> >> > taught to not see humanity but an evidence of humanity's failure in
>> >> > the eyes of Allah. WE are the 'losers' to them: we are the Them to
>> >> > their Us. Sex alone cannot cure that psychosis.
>> >> >
>> >> > On 11/16/15, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Even the losers get lucky sometimes. But these losers, boys for the
>> >> >> most
>> >> >> part, don't get that, so they hate themselves, hate women, hate sex,
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> sport, and rock and roll and restaurants and good food and drink,
>> and a
>> >> >> good time. How unfortunate. To aggrandize the anxiety of these
>> losers,
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> make them ideological spokesmen of the Palestinian plight, the
>> >> >> Post-Colonial rebound, the effect of Orientalists and Oil, is silly.
>> >> >> These
>> >> >> boys are losers. Masturbation may have prevented this, and a good
>> night
>> >> >> out
>> >> >> and some sex would have surely.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Jochen Stremmel <
>> jstremmel at gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Come now, you who say,
>> >> >>> <https://biblia.com/bible/esv/Jas4.13-15#footnote1>“Today
>> >> >>> or tomorrow we will go into such and such a town and spend a year
>> >> >>> there
>> >> >>> and
>> >> >>> trade and make a profit”— yet you do not know what tomorrow will
>> >> >>> bring.
>> >> >>> What is your life? For
>> >> >>> <https://biblia.com/bible/esv/Jas4.13-15#footnote2>you
>> >> >>> are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes.
>> Instead
>> >> >>> you
>> >> >>> ought to say, <https://biblia.com/bible/esv/Jas4.13-15#footnote3
>> >“If
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> Lord wills, we will live and do this or that.”
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 2015-11-16 11:12 GMT+01:00 Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com
>> >:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> Hm.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 5:02 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen <
>> >> >>>> lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>    In the taxi on the way home, there's loud traffic in Arabic on
>> >> >>>>> the
>> >> >>>>> radio, which Maxine figures at first for a call-in show till the
>> >> >>>>> cabbie
>> >> >>>>> picks up a handset and joins in. She glances at the ID up on the
>> >> >>>>> Plexiglas.
>> >> >>>>> The face in the photo is too indistinct to make out, but the
>> name is
>> >> >>>>> Islamic, Mohammed somebody.
>> >> >>>>>    It's like hearing a party from another room, though Maxine
>> >> >>>>> notices
>> >> >>>>> there's no music, no laughing. High emotion all right, but
>> closer to
>> >> >>>>> tears
>> >> >>>>> or anger. Men talking over each other, shouting, interrupting. A
>> >> >>>>> couple
>> >> >>>>> of
>> >> >>>>> the voices might be women's, though later it will seem they could
>> >> >>>>> have
>> >> >>>>> belonged to high-pitched men. The only word Maxine recognizes,
>> and
>> >> >>>>> she
>> >> >>>>> hears it more than once, is *Inshallah*. "Arabic for 'whatever,'"
>> >> >>>>> Horst
>> >> >>>>> nods.
>> >> >>>>>    They're waiting at a light. "If it is God's will," the driver
>> >> >>>>> corrects him, half turning in his seat so that Maxine happens to
>> be
>> >> >>>>> looking
>> >> >>>>> him in the face. What she sees there will keep her from getting
>> to
>> >> >>>>> sleep
>> >> >>>>> right away. Or that's how she'll remember it.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> > -
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