Bleeding Edge, pp. 312-313

[Keith Davis]

Unless, maybe, you don't enter the battle.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:35 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> "probably a fair amount of elements within the movements that has nothing
> to do with religion".
> Good point. Even "religion" has very little to do with religion. More
> about being on a team...
>
> We are all losers in this fight.
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 8:26 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 5:59 PM, David Kilroy <thesaintgodard at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mark's point is too easily glossed over, and it dovetails with Laura's:
>>> among these jihadists there are more than a few who are "successful" people
>>> with fulfilling lives, careers-- even families, yet they are fundamentally
>>> dissatisfied with the powers dominating the world.  They may have had
>>> alternative outlets for their combative desires but they chose martyrdom
>>> because they feel essentially powerless.  Though their methods are
>>> abominable it's hard to argue with that sentiment.  We are all quite
>>> powerless in this respect.
>>>
>>
>> there have been reports that behind al baghdadi are the remnants of
>> Saddam's intelligence/secret police. hardly suicide bomber material. In
>> fact, there's a certain expertise that these people have accumulated over
>> the years and fully taken advantages of via the Iraqi insurgency and the
>> the eventual breakdown of Assad's regime in Syria. Hardly the Zarqawi
>> fanatics with these guys. They were never very religious, using the mask of
>> Islam for their own purposes, much like Saddam did. I dont think
>> powerlessness plays into it; I think hot and heavy revenge.
>>
>>
>> 'Jihadists choose violence because ultimately there is some measure of
>> brotherhood & solace in their "mission", inflicting the only pain it can on
>> a thankless, embittered power structure wholly lacking compassion and
>> patience for losers.  And we're all losers down here on the street.'
>>
>> if one is paranoid and us with our brainwashed foolish soldiers, why not
>> for the other side as well--there are plenty of misdirected lost men (and
>> women--let's not forget the black widows of Chechnya) to be used as cannon
>> fodder--it worked for the PLO, Hamas, Islamic Jihad. My point is that there
>> is a hierarchy utilizing the tools available to some end, couched in
>> jihad--I would argue there are probably a fair amount of elements within
>> the movements that has nothing to do with religion
>>
>> and yes we are all losers in this fight
>>
>> rich
>>
>>>
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