,Re: In case no one else saw this

[Paul Mackin]

Thanks, John, happy to be back.  Reminds me, I should have addressed
the aches and pains issue that Mike raised back awhile.  Mine are
thank heaven minimal, much less than deserved.

P

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 6:15 AM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
> That feeling when the Pynchon List is discussing who it's OK to hate.
>
> And we couldn't get through one group read of Bleeding Edge.
>
> PS Paul it's great to hear from you again lately. Elder statesman of
> the list, for the newcomers.
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ok to hate jihadist I thot
>>
>> On Nov 18, 2015 8:58 PM, "Mark Thibodeau" <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am finding it difficult to understand why it's okay to hate National
>>> Socialists as a group, but NOT Islamic fundamentalists. After all, NOT ALL
>>> NAZIS, like, worked in concentration camps, you know! And weren't they
>>> defending themselves and their homeland during a time of, like, WAR?
>>>
>>> At what point does the cognitive dissonance result in a destructive
>>> resonance feedback loop that shakes all of reality apart?
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 5:42 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ah, the press. The first essay suggests there is a far more productive
>>>> way to think about the IS:
>>>>
>>>> " It is much more productive to think about what the Islamic State’s
>>>> combatants, or those of any other extremist group, or ordinary, peaceable
>>>> Iraqis or Syrians want to live for."
>>>>
>>>> But the essay, after this fine suggestion, resorts to blaming us and
>>>> those in the press for failing to follow this line of thought, then launches
>>>> a nutshell reading of history that dumps more blame on us. The second essay
>>>> is more of the same, blame, blame, blame.
>>>>
>>>> What do the extremists want to live for?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Thomas Eckhardt
>>>> <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The topic at hand is also discussed here:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.salon.com/2015/11/18/its_paul_krugman_vs_noam_chomsky_this_is_the_history_we_need_to_understand_paris_isis/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.salon.com/2015/11/15/we_brought_this_on_ourselves_after_paris_it_is_time_to_square_our_values_with_our_history/
>>>>>
>>>>> In this case, as in the case of Ukraine, I generally agree with Smith
>>>>> without supporting every claim he makes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 18.11.2015 um 15:19 schrieb ish mailian:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While I agree that the narrative, "they hate us for our freedom" is
>>>>>> being trotted out again, and that such narratives are used to divert
>>>>>> attention from the atrocities committed by the West
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (...)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. Did Bush say "freedom" or "freedoms"?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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