,Re: In case no one else saw this

[Paul Mackin]

What makes me nervous is trying to even KNOW what I think about any of
this.  I'll write something and press the send button, then a second
later realize it wasn't what I think at all.

P

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 6:54 AM, David Kilroy <thesaintgodard at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sometimes I can't tell if P-list is trolling. Islamic fundamentalism
> is no more synonymous with jihadism than christian fundamentalism is
> equivalent with dominion theology. As an agnostic who barely escaped
> the bible belt with my scrotum intact I freely admit all these strains
> of thought make me nervous as hell but I stand by the fact that
> mutatis mutandis, not every fundie believes murder is a solution.
>
> On 11/19/15, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> That feeling when the Pynchon List is discussing who it's OK to hate.
>>
>> And we couldn't get through one group read of Bleeding Edge.
>>
>> PS Paul it's great to hear from you again lately. Elder statesman of
>> the list, for the newcomers.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Ok to hate jihadist I thot
>>>
>>> On Nov 18, 2015 8:58 PM, "Mark Thibodeau" <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am finding it difficult to understand why it's okay to hate National
>>>> Socialists as a group, but NOT Islamic fundamentalists. After all, NOT
>>>> ALL
>>>> NAZIS, like, worked in concentration camps, you know! And weren't they
>>>> defending themselves and their homeland during a time of, like, WAR?
>>>>
>>>> At what point does the cognitive dissonance result in a destructive
>>>> resonance feedback loop that shakes all of reality apart?
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 5:42 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ah, the press. The first essay suggests there is a far more productive
>>>>> way to think about the IS:
>>>>>
>>>>> " It is much more productive to think about what the Islamic State’s
>>>>> combatants, or those of any other extremist group, or ordinary,
>>>>> peaceable
>>>>> Iraqis or Syrians want to live for."
>>>>>
>>>>> But the essay, after this fine suggestion, resorts to blaming us and
>>>>> those in the press for failing to follow this line of thought, then
>>>>> launches
>>>>> a nutshell reading of history that dumps more blame on us. The second
>>>>> essay
>>>>> is more of the same, blame, blame, blame.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do the extremists want to live for?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Thomas Eckhardt
>>>>> <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The topic at hand is also discussed here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.salon.com/2015/11/18/its_paul_krugman_vs_noam_chomsky_this_is_the_history_we_need_to_understand_paris_isis/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.salon.com/2015/11/15/we_brought_this_on_ourselves_after_paris_it_is_time_to_square_our_values_with_our_history/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In this case, as in the case of Ukraine, I generally agree with Smith
>>>>>> without supporting every claim he makes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 18.11.2015 um 15:19 schrieb ish mailian:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While I agree that the narrative, "they hate us for our freedom" is
>>>>>>> being trotted out again, and that such narratives are used to divert
>>>>>>> attention from the atrocities committed by the West
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. Did Bush say "freedom" or "freedoms"?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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