Non-P: du Maurier?

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Fri Nov 20 14:10:59 CST 2015


i think about female archetypes every other day. This is not snark.

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 1:16 PM, David Kilroy <thesaintgodard at gmail.com> wrote:
> Also in re: Rebecca, been thinking about female archetypes in fiction a lot
> lately. Predominantly Salomé-- b/c of the project currently cluttering my
> desk --but also the folktale of Bluebeard.  'Twas due to Bluebeard that I
> picked up Rebecca.  Again that thing with timeless themes.  We always wonder
> what happened with the one before.  "Did it simply not work out, OR, is my
> One True Love secretly a heinous bastard...?"  Appeals to the morbid
> tendency.
>
> The Birds I wound up reading on a lark.
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 1:06 PM, David Kilroy <thesaintgodard at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> @Mark:  Quite easy to parse the popularity.  The main character being
>> unnamed & ambiguously enough described for readers to patch into; the
>> mystery is one we've all experienced to some extent (stumbling through the
>> life of one deceased, or the keepsakes of a lover's former love); and-- like
>> Melville's Pierre --it's a gothic that takes specific pains to mock the
>> Manners Novel.  The first half, at least, regularly pokes at class
>> hypocrisy.  Don't know if that thread will continue now that Rebecca's
>> mystery is officially underway, but those traits combined makes it
>> beautifully accessible.  Universal themes.  Timeless even.
>>
>> (Doesn't hurt that I am a total sap & hopeless romantic.)
>>
>> Oh, and the Birds was *damned* good.  The simplicity & specificity of the
>> language, combined with the cadence & characterization made me wonder if it
>> wasn't a formative influence on Cormac McCarthy.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Rebecca lasts. Touches something universal ( Western anyway).
>>> I know this about its publishing history. It was deemed nothing special
>>> by its
>>> Publisher but early readers, --booksellers,-- voted it a People's Choice
>>> kind of
>>> award. When popular could also mean good.
>>> ( not putting down any others, in fact The Birds has surely become a
>>> modern archetype, eh?)
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 6:35 AM, Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jamaica Inn would complete the Hitchcock adaptation trilogy.
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 20, 2015, David Kilroy <thesaintgodard at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Have greatly enjoyed taking a stroll through Daphne du Maurier's
>>>> shorts, The Birds and Don't Look Now. PARTICULARLY The Birds. Halfway
>>>> thru Rebecca and frankly infatuated. Does P-list have any short story
>>>> collections or further novels by the Dame they'd care to recommend?
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>>
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