Non-P: du Maurier?

kelber at mindspring.com kelber at mindspring.com
Fri Nov 20 14:26:28 CST 2015


I don't. This IS snark.

Laura

Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

>i think about female archetypes every other day. This is not snark.
>
>On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 1:16 PM, David Kilroy <thesaintgodard at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Also in re: Rebecca, been thinking about female archetypes in fiction a lot
>> lately. Predominantly Salomé-- b/c of the project currently cluttering my
>> desk --but also the folktale of Bluebeard.  'Twas due to Bluebeard that I
>> picked up Rebecca.  Again that thing with timeless themes.  We always wonder
>> what happened with the one before.  "Did it simply not work out, OR, is my
>> One True Love secretly a heinous bastard...?"  Appeals to the morbid
>> tendency.
>>
>> The Birds I wound up reading on a lark.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 1:06 PM, David Kilroy <thesaintgodard at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> @Mark:  Quite easy to parse the popularity.  The main character being
>>> unnamed & ambiguously enough described for readers to patch into; the
>>> mystery is one we've all experienced to some extent (stumbling through the
>>> life of one deceased, or the keepsakes of a lover's former love); and-- like
>>> Melville's Pierre --it's a gothic that takes specific pains to mock the
>>> Manners Novel.  The first half, at least, regularly pokes at class
>>> hypocrisy.  Don't know if that thread will continue now that Rebecca's
>>> mystery is officially underway, but those traits combined makes it
>>> beautifully accessible.  Universal themes.  Timeless even.
>>>
>>> (Doesn't hurt that I am a total sap & hopeless romantic.)
>>>
>>> Oh, and the Birds was *damned* good.  The simplicity & specificity of the
>>> language, combined with the cadence & characterization made me wonder if it
>>> wasn't a formative influence on Cormac McCarthy.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Rebecca lasts. Touches something universal ( Western anyway).
>>>> I know this about its publishing history. It was deemed nothing special
>>>> by its
>>>> Publisher but early readers, --booksellers,-- voted it a People's Choice
>>>> kind of
>>>> award. When popular could also mean good.
>>>> ( not putting down any others, in fact The Birds has surely become a
>>>> modern archetype, eh?)
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 6:35 AM, Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jamaica Inn would complete the Hitchcock adaptation trilogy.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, November 20, 2015, David Kilroy <thesaintgodard at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Have greatly enjoyed taking a stroll through Daphne du Maurier's
>>>>> shorts, The Birds and Don't Look Now. PARTICULARLY The Birds. Halfway
>>>>> thru Rebecca and frankly infatuated. Does P-list have any short story
>>>>> collections or further novels by the Dame they'd care to recommend?
>>>>> -
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>>
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