NP - Houellebecq on Paris attacks

[David Kilroy]

Thank you so very much for that last link, Rich!

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 4:18 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:

> shit that would be neat to see. the novelist reclaiming lost ground to the
> terrorist,eh?.
> rich
>
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> https://delillosociety.wordpress.com/2015/07/18/don-delillo-fiction-rescues-history-conference-paris-february-18-20-2016/
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> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 4:08 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> The Elementary particles was wonderful
>>
>> rich
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>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Mark Sacha <msacha1121 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> My French is nonexistent. For what it's worth the only Houellebecq I've
>>> touched is The Map and the Territory and apart from the overplayed bitter
>>> man beds beautiful women stuff, I found it massively funny (I think the
>>> English translator of Submission has also mentioned it's more of a satire
>>> than the right-wing paranoia-fest it's assumed to be). Merci, all.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Nov 20, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Mark Sacha <msacha1121 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Very much on the fence about reading this one. The Huysmans stuff
>>>>> sounds more compelling to me than the French caving in angle... maybe I
>>>>> should just pick up some Zola instead.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Looking forward to what you have to say.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:43 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > just started Submission and will probably post something about it
>>>>> when I'm done.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > the essay is classicly overdramatic and overreached. much to be
>>>>> expected. however it is hard to argue with the last two paragraphs, except
>>>>> the last two lines. im not sure what direct democracy is, France being ever
>>>>> governed by mother Paris
>>>>> >
>>>>> > what makes maybe an essay somehat buffoonish works better in fiction
>>>>> or so I think reading 1/4 of Submission
>>>>> >
>>>>> > rich
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 4:05 AM, matthew cissell <
>>>>> mccissell at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/21/opinion/how-frances-leaders-failed-its-people.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region&region=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region&_r=
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Ecce Houellebecq. The Author has spoken, too bad he didn't choose
>>>>> silence.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The title blames the leaders. In his second paragraph he attributes
>>>>> the 1986 atttacks to Hezbollah. (Let's pass over his moaning about the lack
>>>>> of a Churchill like leader, but recall what Brecht said in Galileo about
>>>>> the need for leaders.) Then Chez Michel sez the blame is widely shared, but
>>>>> then in the next line he's back to blaming leaders. So which is it Michel?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Howlabook claims that the "essential mission" of the government is
>>>>> to protect the population. Guess he didn't study Poli-sci.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Perhaps someone should remind Monsieur H. that the only people
>>>>> responsible for the attacks are the people who perpetrated them.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Mon. H. would like to be Zola but this is not his lineage. Michel
>>>>> Houellebecq belongs to the line Joseph de Miastre, Maurice Barres, and
>>>>> Charles Maurras.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > But is his piece not also part of the game? An essay here or there
>>>>> following on some book release to bump up the numbers, not a rational act
>>>>> following rules but a feel for the game - "Now is the time for this!" A
>>>>> controversial piece to make sure your name stays in the news for some days.
>>>>> (Think back to how Baudrillard made the most out of events by saying
>>>>> something supposedly profound - Iraq war and 2001 attacks.) His blip is
>>>>> growing, and perhaps I should not contribute to it, but when you hear
>>>>> idiocy proclaimed as wisdom it is incumbent upon you to respond.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Pauvre France. there must be more than Houellebecq and BS Henri
>>>>> Levy. Sure makes me miss Bourdieu.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ciao
>>>>> > mc otis
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>>>>>
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