Brilliantly, sadly observed

[Paul Mackin]

Americans sort of do have a penchant for arming a faction that later
proves to be a bitter enemy.

On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 3:41 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
> Did we pretty much midwife an Islamic state? No. We did not. That is sound
> bite.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 1:17 PM, David Kilroy <thesaintgodard at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Considering we pretty much midwived the existence of the Islamic State I
>> don't think we merit much understanding.
>>
>> Not for a second saying the terrorists are right, but I understand
>> precisely why we're perceived as the great satan.  Our government has done
>> everything in its power to destabilize the middle east, murder & impoverish
>> hundreds of thousands of people and it's an absolute fucking disgrace.
>>
>> http://thedollop.libsyn.com/122-the-iraq-war
>>
>> Professional comedians can't even manage to make jokes about it.  It's
>> just an abysmal state of affairs.  Our government has made its citizenry
>> complicit in wars where we refuse to keep a body count or allow ourselves to
>> be held accountable to international law.  We've held POWs for over a decade
>> without trial.  How has that made us secure?  MY GOVERNMENT HAS MADE ME
>> COMPLICIT IN WAR CRIMES.  The people in Guantanamo are hostages, political
>> pawns who have been abused physically & mentally, and no amount of therapy
>> will heal that.  Call me naive all you want: this shit matters.  We look
>> like fucking barbarians.
>>
>> The U.S. hasn't made things any more secure.  It's made American citizens
>> targets wherever we go: U.S. policies have created a climate of hatred &
>> danger for citizens traveling abroad.  It's infuriating.  We're losers for
>> believing we're in any way righteous.
>
>
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