Brilliantly, sadly observed

[ish mailian]

Yes. That's for sure. Must give every proxy, partner, puppet, ally even,
pause. Iran's "Great Satan" is great, powerful, and speaks with a forked
tongue. Watched a few interview recently, , one with the Iranian President,
one with Putin, one with the PM of the now, Jewish State, and couldn't help
but hear a counter to the America is in decline, is not exceptional mantra
of the American Left.

On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com> wrote:

> Americans sort of do have a penchant for arming a faction that later
> proves to be a bitter enemy.
>
> On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 3:41 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Did we pretty much midwife an Islamic state? No. We did not. That is
> sound
> > bite.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 1:17 PM, David Kilroy <thesaintgodard at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Considering we pretty much midwived the existence of the Islamic State I
> >> don't think we merit much understanding.
> >>
> >> Not for a second saying the terrorists are right, but I understand
> >> precisely why we're perceived as the great satan.  Our government has
> done
> >> everything in its power to destabilize the middle east, murder &
> impoverish
> >> hundreds of thousands of people and it's an absolute fucking disgrace.
> >>
> >> http://thedollop.libsyn.com/122-the-iraq-war
> >>
> >> Professional comedians can't even manage to make jokes about it.  It's
> >> just an abysmal state of affairs.  Our government has made its citizenry
> >> complicit in wars where we refuse to keep a body count or allow
> ourselves to
> >> be held accountable to international law.  We've held POWs for over a
> decade
> >> without trial.  How has that made us secure?  MY GOVERNMENT HAS MADE ME
> >> COMPLICIT IN WAR CRIMES.  The people in Guantanamo are hostages,
> political
> >> pawns who have been abused physically & mentally, and no amount of
> therapy
> >> will heal that.  Call me naive all you want: this shit matters.  We look
> >> like fucking barbarians.
> >>
> >> The U.S. hasn't made things any more secure.  It's made American
> citizens
> >> targets wherever we go: U.S. policies have created a climate of hatred &
> >> danger for citizens traveling abroad.  It's infuriating.  We're losers
> for
> >> believing we're in any way righteous.
> >
> >
>
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