Re: What Do We Really Know About Osama bin Laden’s Death?

[Keith Davis]

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/11/20/bin-ladens-obituary-notice/

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> So, if this piece does not need revisionist history later, we know more
> answers.
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/29/us/politics/obama-legal-authorization-osama-bin-laden-raid.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Does the Guardian writer have any basis for suggesting that the
> administration--Obama--preemptively disregarded the possibility of
> capturing Osama Bin Laden? most seem to think
> > It was ' capture him, of course, if it is easy,  but don't try too hard"
> kind of tacit mandate. do we KNOW differently now?
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Oct 22, 2015, at 3:13 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> <
> kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> This thread started with a self-examination by the NY Times about its
> own reporting on the OBL capture/kill. Anyone care to parse through today's
> story, about the US sale of fighter jets to Pakistan as an apparent
> good-will sop to heal the flagging relationship of the US and Pakistan?
> >>
> >>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/22/world/asia/white-house-set-to-sell-new-fighter-jets-to-pakistan-in-bid-to-bolster-partnership.html?_r=0
> >>
> >> Aside from the fact that the story doesn't explain what a US "sale"
> actually means (selling from our own military arsenal, with proceeds to go
> to the US government? Approving US companies to make the sale, with
> proceeds going into private coffers?), the oddball explanation given is
> that, although Pakistan has plenty of fighter-jets, many supplied by France
> and China, it hasn't been using them to support US interests - fighting
> ISIS, in particular. The most curious reason the article cites for the sale
> is that it's meant as some sort of US-supplied methadone (my metaphor, not
> the article's) to lure Pakistan away from the heady heroin rush of its
> ever-expanding nuclear arsenal, currently aimed at India. The tactics the
> article describes are outrageous on many levels (the US, after all its
> blustering and positioning in the area having zero leverage on Pakistan or
> any other government, including its own puppet governments, the idea that
> the best way to assure that Pakistan's weapons don't fall into the hands of
> terrorists/extremists is to supply Pakistan with more weapons, the
> willingness to overlook Pakistan's support of the Taliban in exchange for
> some action on ISIS, the lack of references to Syria, Iran et al).
> >>
> >> Laura
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Thomas Eckhardt <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de>
> >>> Sent: Oct 22, 2015 4:09 AM
> >>> To: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
> >>> Cc: Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>, pynchon -l <
> pynchon-l at waste.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: What Do We Really Know About Osama bin Laden’s Death?
> >>>
> >>>> Am 19.10.2015 um 17:17 schrieb rich:
> >>>> My god, OBL wasnt armed, he didnt get a proper burial. Really? who
> >>>> cares. the fucker's deserved a worse death than that.
> >>>
> >>> You mean like Gaddafi? "We came, we saw, he died"?
> >>>
> >>> Osama Bin Laden should have been tried in a court of law.
> >>>
> >>> This is what civilized nations do. The Israelis didn't shoot Eichmann
> on
> >>> the spot. And for good reason.
> >>>
> >>> Besides, it would have been more effective from a counterterrorism POV:
> >>>
> >>> "By choosing to execute the al-Qaida leader the US has denied justice
> to
> >>> the victims of 9/11 and perpetuated the 'war on terror'"
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/may/03/osama-bin-laden-trial-al-qaida
> >>> -
> >>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
> >>
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