Re: What Do We Really Know About Osama bin Laden’s Death?

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Thu Oct 29 16:40:58 CDT 2015


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... because he wanted rock-solid evidence that the terrorist leader
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On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/11/20/bin-ladens-obituary-notice/
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> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> So, if this piece does not need revisionist history later, we know more
>> answers.
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>> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/29/us/politics/obama-legal-authorization-osama-bin-laden-raid.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
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>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Does the Guardian writer have any basis for suggesting that the
>> > administration--Obama--preemptively disregarded the possibility of capturing
>> > Osama Bin Laden? most seem to think
>> > It was ' capture him, of course, if it is easy,  but don't try too hard"
>> > kind of tacit mandate. do we KNOW differently now?
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> >
>> >> On Oct 22, 2015, at 3:13 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com>
>> >> <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> This thread started with a self-examination by the NY Times about its
>> >> own reporting on the OBL capture/kill. Anyone care to parse through today's
>> >> story, about the US sale of fighter jets to Pakistan as an apparent
>> >> good-will sop to heal the flagging relationship of the US and Pakistan?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/22/world/asia/white-house-set-to-sell-new-fighter-jets-to-pakistan-in-bid-to-bolster-partnership.html?_r=0
>> >>
>> >> Aside from the fact that the story doesn't explain what a US "sale"
>> >> actually means (selling from our own military arsenal, with proceeds to go
>> >> to the US government? Approving US companies to make the sale, with proceeds
>> >> going into private coffers?), the oddball explanation given is that,
>> >> although Pakistan has plenty of fighter-jets, many supplied by France and
>> >> China, it hasn't been using them to support US interests - fighting ISIS, in
>> >> particular. The most curious reason the article cites for the sale is that
>> >> it's meant as some sort of US-supplied methadone (my metaphor, not the
>> >> article's) to lure Pakistan away from the heady heroin rush of its
>> >> ever-expanding nuclear arsenal, currently aimed at India. The tactics the
>> >> article describes are outrageous on many levels (the US, after all its
>> >> blustering and positioning in the area having zero leverage on Pakistan or
>> >> any other government, including its own puppet governments, the idea that
>> >> the best way to assure that Pakistan's weapons don't fall into the hands of
>> >> terrorists/extremists is to supply Pakistan with more weapons, the
>> >> willingness to overlook Pakistan's support of the Taliban in exchange for
>> >> some action on ISIS, the lack of references to Syria, Iran et al).
>> >>
>> >> Laura
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Thomas Eckhardt <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de>
>> >>> Sent: Oct 22, 2015 4:09 AM
>> >>> To: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
>> >>> Cc: Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>, pynchon -l
>> >>> <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> >>> Subject: Re: What Do We Really Know About Osama bin Laden’s Death?
>> >>>
>> >>>> Am 19.10.2015 um 17:17 schrieb rich:
>> >>>> My god, OBL wasnt armed, he didnt get a proper burial. Really? who
>> >>>> cares. the fucker's deserved a worse death than that.
>> >>>
>> >>> You mean like Gaddafi? "We came, we saw, he died"?
>> >>>
>> >>> Osama Bin Laden should have been tried in a court of law.
>> >>>
>> >>> This is what civilized nations do. The Israelis didn't shoot Eichmann
>> >>> on
>> >>> the spot. And for good reason.
>> >>>
>> >>> Besides, it would have been more effective from a counterterrorism
>> >>> POV:
>> >>>
>> >>> "By choosing to execute the al-Qaida leader the US has denied justice
>> >>> to
>> >>> the victims of 9/11 and perpetuated the 'war on terror'"
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/may/03/osama-bin-laden-trial-al-qaida
>> >>> -
>> >>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
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