GR translation: God under the aspect of Atropos

Dave Monroe against.the.dave at gmail.com
Mon Sep 7 03:35:07 CDT 2015


"God under the aspect of Atropos, she who cannot be turned"

Ash-Wednesday
by T S Eliot

Because I do not hope to turn again
Because I do not hope
Because I do not hope to turn
Desiring this man's gift and that man's scope
I no longer strive to strive towards such things
(Why should the aged eagle stretch its wings?)
Why should I mourn
The vanished power of the usual reign?

[...]

http://www.msgr.ca/msgr-7/ash_wednesday_t_s_eliot.htm

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:32 AM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
> sub specie aeternitatis
>
> adverb sub spe·cie ae·ter·ni·ta·tis \su̇b-ˈspe-kē-ˌā-ˌī-ˌter-nə-ˈtä-təs\
>
> Definition of SUB SPECIE AETERNITATIS
>
> :  in its essential or universal form or nature
>
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sub%20specie%20aeternitatis
>
> "Sub specie aeternitatis (Latin for "under the aspect of eternity"),
> is, from Baruch Spinoza onwards, an honorific expression describing
> what is universally and eternally true, without any reference to or
> dependence upon the temporal portions of reality."
>
> [...]
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub_specie_aeternitatis
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Atropos
>>
>> "In Greek mythology, Atropos was one of the three Moirae, the Fates,
>> the female deities who supervised fate rather than determine it.
>> Atropos was the fate who cut the thread or web of life. She was known
>> as the 'inflexible' or 'inevitable; and cut this thread with the
>> 'abhorred shears.' She worked along with Clotho, who spun the thread,
>> and Lachesis, who measured the length. They were the daughters of Zeus
>> and Themis (the goddess of order.) It is not clear whether the fates
>> were superior to Zeus or if he was subject to them as mortals were.
>> The Roman name of the fates are Nona, Decuma, and Morta.
>>
>> http://www.pantheon.org/articles/a/atropos.html
>>
>> "Atropos or Aisa (/ˈætrəpɒs/; Ancient Greek: Ἄτροπος "without turn"),
>> in Greek mythology, was one of the three Moirai, goddesses of fate and
>> destiny. Her Roman equivalent was Morta.
>>
>> "Atropos was the oldest of the Three Fates, and was known as the
>> 'inflexible' or 'inevitable.' It was Atropos who chose the mechanism
>> of death and ended the life of each mortal by cutting their thread
>> with her 'abhorred shears.' She worked along with her two sisters,
>> Clotho, who spun the thread, and Lachesis, who measured the
>> length...."
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atropos
>>
>> "Atropos lends her name to the genus Atropa, of which the poisonous
>> plant Atropa belladonna (Deadly Nightshade) and the alkaloid atropine,
>> an anticholinergic drug which is derived from it, are members."
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atropos#Medicine
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> "n astrology, an aspect is an angle the planets make to each other in
>>> the horoscope, and also to the ascendant, midheaven, descendant, lower
>>> midheaven, and other points of astrological interest. Aspects are
>>> measured by the angular distance in degrees and minutes of ecliptic
>>> longitudebetween two points, as viewed from Earth. According to
>>> astrological tradition, they indicate the timing of transitions and
>>> developmental changes in the lives of people and affairs relative to
>>> the Earth."
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> V643.7-15   “Hey Pensiero,” calls Paddy McGonigle, ya still hearin’ dat
>>>> sound?”
>>>>        “Yeah uh I t’ink it’s a mouth-organ,” Pensiero busily combing up
>>>> single hairs, cutting each one a slightly different length, going back again
>>>> and again to touch up here and there . . . God is who knows their number.
>>>> Atropos is who severs them to different lengths. So, God under the aspect of
>>>> Atropos, she who cannot be turned, is in possession of Eddie Pensiero
>>>> tonight.
>>>>        “I got your mouth organ,” jeers Paddy, “right here! Look! A wop
>>>> clarinet!”
>>>>
>>>> What does "under the aspect of" mean here?
>>>>
>>>>
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