GR translation: God under the aspect of Atropos

Dave Monroe against.the.dave at gmail.com
Mon Sep 7 03:51:07 CDT 2015


... or, to make s long sentence short, if not God as as
predestination, as determinate fate.

Meanwhile ...

Atropos
one of the Fates (the one who holds the shears and determines the
manner of a person's death and cuts the thread), from Greek,
"inflexible," literally "not to be turned away," from a- "not" (see a-
(3)) + stem of trepein "to turn" (see trope). Related form Atropa was
the Greek name for deadly nightshade.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Atropos

Cf. ...

trope (n.)
1530s, from Latin tropus "a figure of speech," from Greek tropos "a
turn, direction, course, way; manner, fashion," in rhetoric, "turn or
figure of speech," related to trope "a turning" and trepein "to turn,"
from PIE root trep- (2) "to turn" (cognates: Sanskrit trapate "is
ashamed, confused," properly "turns away in shame;" Latin trepit "he
turns"). Technically, in rhetoric, "a figure of speech which consists
in the use of a word or phrase in a sense other than that which is
proper to it" [OED], "as when we call a stupid fellow an ass, or a
shrewd man a fox" [Century Dictionary].

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=trope

Vs. (?) ...

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=entropy

http://www.pynchon.pomona.edu/slowlearner/entropy.html

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:35 AM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
> "God under the aspect of Atropos, she who cannot be turned"
>
> Ash-Wednesday
> by T S Eliot
>
> Because I do not hope to turn again
> Because I do not hope
> Because I do not hope to turn
> Desiring this man's gift and that man's scope
> I no longer strive to strive towards such things
> (Why should the aged eagle stretch its wings?)
> Why should I mourn
> The vanished power of the usual reign?
>
> [...]
>
> http://www.msgr.ca/msgr-7/ash_wednesday_t_s_eliot.htm
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:32 AM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
>> sub specie aeternitatis
>>
>> adverb sub spe·cie ae·ter·ni·ta·tis \su̇b-ˈspe-kē-ˌā-ˌī-ˌter-nə-ˈtä-təs\
>>
>> Definition of SUB SPECIE AETERNITATIS
>>
>> :  in its essential or universal form or nature
>>
>> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sub%20specie%20aeternitatis
>>
>> "Sub specie aeternitatis (Latin for "under the aspect of eternity"),
>> is, from Baruch Spinoza onwards, an honorific expression describing
>> what is universally and eternally true, without any reference to or
>> dependence upon the temporal portions of reality."
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub_specie_aeternitatis
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Atropos
>>>
>>> "In Greek mythology, Atropos was one of the three Moirae, the Fates,
>>> the female deities who supervised fate rather than determine it.
>>> Atropos was the fate who cut the thread or web of life. She was known
>>> as the 'inflexible' or 'inevitable; and cut this thread with the
>>> 'abhorred shears.' She worked along with Clotho, who spun the thread,
>>> and Lachesis, who measured the length. They were the daughters of Zeus
>>> and Themis (the goddess of order.) It is not clear whether the fates
>>> were superior to Zeus or if he was subject to them as mortals were.
>>> The Roman name of the fates are Nona, Decuma, and Morta.
>>>
>>> http://www.pantheon.org/articles/a/atropos.html
>>>
>>> "Atropos or Aisa (/ˈætrəpɒs/; Ancient Greek: Ἄτροπος "without turn"),
>>> in Greek mythology, was one of the three Moirai, goddesses of fate and
>>> destiny. Her Roman equivalent was Morta.
>>>
>>> "Atropos was the oldest of the Three Fates, and was known as the
>>> 'inflexible' or 'inevitable.' It was Atropos who chose the mechanism
>>> of death and ended the life of each mortal by cutting their thread
>>> with her 'abhorred shears.' She worked along with her two sisters,
>>> Clotho, who spun the thread, and Lachesis, who measured the
>>> length...."
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atropos
>>>
>>> "Atropos lends her name to the genus Atropa, of which the poisonous
>>> plant Atropa belladonna (Deadly Nightshade) and the alkaloid atropine,
>>> an anticholinergic drug which is derived from it, are members."
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atropos#Medicine
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "n astrology, an aspect is an angle the planets make to each other in
>>>> the horoscope, and also to the ascendant, midheaven, descendant, lower
>>>> midheaven, and other points of astrological interest. Aspects are
>>>> measured by the angular distance in degrees and minutes of ecliptic
>>>> longitudebetween two points, as viewed from Earth. According to
>>>> astrological tradition, they indicate the timing of transitions and
>>>> developmental changes in the lives of people and affairs relative to
>>>> the Earth."
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> V643.7-15   “Hey Pensiero,” calls Paddy McGonigle, ya still hearin’ dat
>>>>> sound?”
>>>>>        “Yeah uh I t’ink it’s a mouth-organ,” Pensiero busily combing up
>>>>> single hairs, cutting each one a slightly different length, going back again
>>>>> and again to touch up here and there . . . God is who knows their number.
>>>>> Atropos is who severs them to different lengths. So, God under the aspect of
>>>>> Atropos, she who cannot be turned, is in possession of Eddie Pensiero
>>>>> tonight.
>>>>>        “I got your mouth organ,” jeers Paddy, “right here! Look! A wop
>>>>> clarinet!”
>>>>>
>>>>> What does "under the aspect of" mean here?
>>>>>
>>>>>
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