GR translation: God under the aspect of Atropos
David Morris
fqmorris at gmail.com
Tue Sep 8 20:11:56 CDT 2015
Maybe I don't understand what notes you mean.
On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> Unless I'm given a synopsis of sorts, I delete all posts, without
> clicking, that are links only. If the person posting can't be bothered,
> neither can I.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','against.the.dave at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> I guess I can assume nobody ever actually reads my notes here, alas.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Thanks, Monte. That's what comes up on top in Google. I'm just not
>> sure if
>> > there's any extended meaning I'm missing in "God under the aspect of
>> > Atropos".
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Perspective, angle of vision, viewpoint/point of view... compare the
>> >> cluster here in Wikipedia:
>> >>
>> >> Sub specie aeternitatis (Latin for "under the aspect of eternity"),[1]
>> is,
>> >> from Baruch Spinoza onwards, an honorific expression describing what is
>> >> universally and eternally true, without any reference to or dependence
>> upon
>> >> the temporal portions of reality.
>> >>
>> >> In clearer English, sub specie aeternitatis roughly means "from the
>> >> perspective of the eternal". Even more loosely, the phrase is used to
>> >> describe an alternative or objective point of view.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Mike Jing <
>> gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Also, there are two other instances of the phrase in the book:
>> >>>
>> >>> V239.21-24 So was the Rocket’s terrible passage reduced, literally,
>> to
>> >>> bourgeois terms, terms of an equation such as that elegant blend of
>> >>> philosophy and hardware, abstract change and hinged pivots of real
>> metals
>> >>> which describes motion under the aspect of yaw control:
>> >>>
>> >>> V411.14-18 Here, here’s the rundown on Kekulé’s problem. Started
>> out to
>> >>> become an architect, turned out instead to be one of the Atlantes of
>> >>> chemistry, most of the organic wing of that useful edifice bearing
>> down on
>> >>> top of his head forever—not just under the aspect of IG, but of World,
>> >>> assuming that’s a distinction you observe, heh, heh.
>> >>>
>> >>> Here, it seems to mean "from the perspective of".
>> >>>
>> >>> And a slight variation:
>> >>>
>> >>> V610.3-7 And “Solange,” oddly enough, is dreaming of Bianca too,
>> though
>> >>> under a different aspect: it’s of her own child, Ilse, riding lost
>> through
>> >>> the Zone on a long freight train that never seems to come to rest.
>> She isn’t
>> >>> unhappy, nor is she searching, exactly, for her father. But Leni’s
>> early
>> >>> dream for her is coming true. She will not be used.
>> >>>
>> >>> Here, it seems to mean "from a different perspective".
>> >>>
>> >>> Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Mike Jing
>> >>> <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So it's definitely a reference to astrology then? I wasn't sure if
>> the
>> >>>> phrase "under the aspect of" is actually used in that context.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 4:54 AM, Dave Monroe <
>> against.the.dave at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "In astrology, an aspect is an angle the planets make to each other
>> in
>> >>>>> the horoscope, and also to the ascendant, midheaven, descendant and
>> >>>>> nadir. The aspects are measured by the angular distance along the
>> >>>>> ecliptic in degrees and minutes of celestial longitude between two
>> >>>>> points, as viewed from the earth. They indicate focal points in the
>> >>>>> horoscope where the energies involved are given extra emphasis. The
>> >>>>> astrological aspects are said to influence affairs on Earth
>> according
>> >>>>> to millennia of astrological tradition."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [...]
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://www.ancient-symbols.com/astrology_symbols.html (scroll down
>> for
>> >>>>> symbols)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Dave Monroe
>> >>>>> <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> > "n astrology, an aspect is an angle the planets make to each
>> other in
>> >>>>> > the horoscope, and also to the ascendant, midheaven, descendant,
>> >>>>> > lower
>> >>>>> > midheaven, and other points of astrological interest. Aspects are
>> >>>>> > measured by the angular distance in degrees and minutes of
>> ecliptic
>> >>>>> > longitudebetween two points, as viewed from Earth. According to
>> >>>>> > astrological tradition, they indicate the timing of transitions
>> and
>> >>>>> > developmental changes in the lives of people and affairs relative
>> to
>> >>>>> > the Earth."
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > [...]
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Mike Jing
>> >>>>> > <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> >> V643.7-15 “Hey Pensiero,” calls Paddy McGonigle, ya still
>> hearin’
>> >>>>> >> dat
>> >>>>> >> sound?”
>> >>>>> >> “Yeah uh I t’ink it’s a mouth-organ,” Pensiero busily
>> combing
>> >>>>> >> up
>> >>>>> >> single hairs, cutting each one a slightly different length, going
>> >>>>> >> back again
>> >>>>> >> and again to touch up here and there . . . God is who knows their
>> >>>>> >> number.
>> >>>>> >> Atropos is who severs them to different lengths. So, God under
>> the
>> >>>>> >> aspect of
>> >>>>> >> Atropos, she who cannot be turned, is in possession of Eddie
>> >>>>> >> Pensiero
>> >>>>> >> tonight.
>> >>>>> >> “I got your mouth organ,” jeers Paddy, “right here! Look!
>> A
>> >>>>> >> wop
>> >>>>> >> clarinet!”
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> What does "under the aspect of" mean here?
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> -
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