GR translation: God under the aspect of Atropos

Dave Monroe against.the.dave at gmail.com
Wed Sep 9 02:55:01 CDT 2015


You've never read me much @ all, David, not closely, except when
acting as wingman to Robt. Jackson (am I the only one who actually
read his Pynchon Notes essay?  I couldn't believe the hassle I was
taking from a guy whose intertextual modus operandi turned out to be
quite similar to mine, but even MORE speculative, whom I also caught
altering Wikipedia entries to support himself).

Obviously.

But I wasn't )(necessarily) talking to you.

Me, I scan through, see if it's worth my time to respond, or if I even
have a response to make. What I tend to skip over are the cursory
replies.

I just handed y'all a couple/three connection betwixt "shaken skies'
and the 1st sentence of GR, for example, w/ either relevant text
types/C'd 'n' p'd, or bookmarked @ relevant links.

I've tried to believe I don't HAVE to do the dirty work for y'all, but ...

I only post text when I feel I may have to lead people by the nose to something.

I used to actually type in (vs. cut and paste) entire pages/chapters
of books here, entire journal articles, or @ least the relevant parts.
I don't have the time/space/will/energy anymore.

Do note when I post a link to the archives.  There a Reasons I put all
that stuff in there.

I actually got more done when I was working around the clock here than
in my 5+ years of unemployment since.

I'm just taken aback by how much of what I've already posted gets repeated here.

I don't have much time left to me, I'd hoped to make a contrution of
some sort to somewhere of som sort, but ...

...but 20+ years down the drain here, apparently.

Fuck it.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 8:10 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> Unless I'm given a synopsis of sorts, I delete all posts, without clicking,
> that are links only.  If the person posting can't be bothered, neither can
> I.
>
> David Morris
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I guess I can assume nobody ever actually reads my notes here, alas.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Thanks, Monte. That's what comes up on top in Google.  I'm just not sure
>> > if
>> > there's any extended meaning I'm missing in "God under the aspect of
>> > Atropos".
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Perspective, angle of vision, viewpoint/point of view... compare the
>> >> cluster here in Wikipedia:
>> >>
>> >> Sub specie aeternitatis (Latin for "under the aspect of eternity"),[1]
>> >> is,
>> >> from Baruch Spinoza onwards, an honorific expression describing what is
>> >> universally and eternally true, without any reference to or dependence
>> >> upon
>> >> the temporal portions of reality.
>> >>
>> >> In clearer English, sub specie aeternitatis roughly means "from the
>> >> perspective of the eternal". Even more loosely, the phrase is used to
>> >> describe an alternative or objective point of view.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Mike Jing
>> >> <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Also, there are two other instances of the phrase in the book:
>> >>>
>> >>> V239.21-24   So was the Rocket’s terrible passage reduced, literally,
>> >>> to
>> >>> bourgeois terms, terms of an equation such as that elegant blend of
>> >>> philosophy and hardware, abstract change and hinged pivots of real
>> >>> metals
>> >>> which describes motion under the aspect of yaw control:
>> >>>
>> >>> V411.14-18   Here, here’s the rundown on Kekulé’s problem. Started out
>> >>> to
>> >>> become an architect, turned out instead to be one of the Atlantes of
>> >>> chemistry, most of the organic wing of that useful edifice bearing
>> >>> down on
>> >>> top of his head forever—not just under the aspect of IG, but of World,
>> >>> assuming that’s a distinction you observe, heh, heh.
>> >>>
>> >>> Here, it seems to mean "from the perspective of".
>> >>>
>> >>> And a slight variation:
>> >>>
>> >>> V610.3-7   And “Solange,” oddly enough, is dreaming of Bianca too,
>> >>> though
>> >>> under a different aspect: it’s of her own child, Ilse, riding lost
>> >>> through
>> >>> the Zone on a long freight train that never seems to come to rest. She
>> >>> isn’t
>> >>> unhappy, nor is she searching, exactly, for her father. But Leni’s
>> >>> early
>> >>> dream for her is coming true. She will not be used.
>> >>>
>> >>> Here, it seems to mean "from a different perspective".
>> >>>
>> >>> Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Mike Jing
>> >>> <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So it's definitely a reference to astrology then? I wasn't sure if
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> phrase "under the aspect of" is actually used in that context.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 4:54 AM, Dave Monroe
>> >>>> <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "In astrology, an aspect is an angle the planets make to each other
>> >>>>> in
>> >>>>> the horoscope, and also to the ascendant, midheaven, descendant and
>> >>>>> nadir. The aspects are measured by the angular distance along the
>> >>>>> ecliptic in degrees and minutes of celestial longitude between two
>> >>>>> points, as viewed from the earth. They indicate focal points in the
>> >>>>> horoscope where the energies involved are given extra emphasis. The
>> >>>>> astrological aspects are said to influence affairs on Earth
>> >>>>> according
>> >>>>> to millennia of astrological tradition."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [...]
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://www.ancient-symbols.com/astrology_symbols.html (scroll down
>> >>>>> for
>> >>>>> symbols)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Dave Monroe
>> >>>>> <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> > "n astrology, an aspect is an angle the planets make to each other
>> >>>>> > in
>> >>>>> > the horoscope, and also to the ascendant, midheaven, descendant,
>> >>>>> > lower
>> >>>>> > midheaven, and other points of astrological interest. Aspects are
>> >>>>> > measured by the angular distance in degrees and minutes of
>> >>>>> > ecliptic
>> >>>>> > longitudebetween two points, as viewed from Earth. According to
>> >>>>> > astrological tradition, they indicate the timing of transitions
>> >>>>> > and
>> >>>>> > developmental changes in the lives of people and affairs relative
>> >>>>> > to
>> >>>>> > the Earth."
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > [...]
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Mike Jing
>> >>>>> > <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> >> V643.7-15   “Hey Pensiero,” calls Paddy McGonigle, ya still
>> >>>>> >> hearin’
>> >>>>> >> dat
>> >>>>> >> sound?”
>> >>>>> >>        “Yeah uh I t’ink it’s a mouth-organ,” Pensiero busily
>> >>>>> >> combing
>> >>>>> >> up
>> >>>>> >> single hairs, cutting each one a slightly different length, going
>> >>>>> >> back again
>> >>>>> >> and again to touch up here and there . . . God is who knows their
>> >>>>> >> number.
>> >>>>> >> Atropos is who severs them to different lengths. So, God under
>> >>>>> >> the
>> >>>>> >> aspect of
>> >>>>> >> Atropos, she who cannot be turned, is in possession of Eddie
>> >>>>> >> Pensiero
>> >>>>> >> tonight.
>> >>>>> >>        “I got your mouth organ,” jeers Paddy, “right here! Look!
>> >>>>> >> A
>> >>>>> >> wop
>> >>>>> >> clarinet!”
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> What does "under the aspect of" mean here?
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
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