GR translation: God under the radar
David Ewers
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Wed Sep 9 11:40:30 CDT 2015
For what it's worth, while there are certainly posts that slip through my [inter]net, I very much appreciate (and get a lot from) your input here. I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
On Sep 9, 2015, at 12:55 AM have a nice day, violet wrote this message:), Dave Monroe wrote:
> You've never read me much @ all, David, not closely, except when
> acting as wingman to Robt. Jackson (am I the only one who actually
> read his Pynchon Notes essay? I couldn't believe the hassle I was
> taking from a guy whose intertextual modus operandi turned out to be
> quite similar to mine, but even MORE speculative, whom I also caught
> altering Wikipedia entries to support himself).
>
> Obviously.
>
> But I wasn't )(necessarily) talking to you.
>
> Me, I scan through, see if it's worth my time to respond, or if I even
> have a response to make. What I tend to skip over are the cursory
> replies.
>
> I just handed y'all a couple/three connection betwixt "shaken skies'
> and the 1st sentence of GR, for example, w/ either relevant text
> types/C'd 'n' p'd, or bookmarked @ relevant links.
>
> I've tried to believe I don't HAVE to do the dirty work for y'all, but ...
>
> I only post text when I feel I may have to lead people by the nose to something.
>
> I used to actually type in (vs. cut and paste) entire pages/chapters
> of books here, entire journal articles, or @ least the relevant parts.
> I don't have the time/space/will/energy anymore.
>
> Do note when I post a link to the archives. There a Reasons I put all
> that stuff in there.
>
> I actually got more done when I was working around the clock here than
> in my 5+ years of unemployment since.
>
> I'm just taken aback by how much of what I've already posted gets repeated here.
>
> I don't have much time left to me, I'd hoped to make a contrution of
> some sort to somewhere of som sort, but ...
>
> ...but 20+ years down the drain here, apparently.
>
> Fuck it.
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 8:10 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Unless I'm given a synopsis of sorts, I delete all posts, without clicking,
>> that are links only. If the person posting can't be bothered, neither can
>> I.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I guess I can assume nobody ever actually reads my notes here, alas.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Thanks, Monte. That's what comes up on top in Google. I'm just not sure
>>>> if
>>>> there's any extended meaning I'm missing in "God under the aspect of
>>>> Atropos".
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Perspective, angle of vision, viewpoint/point of view... compare the
>>>>> cluster here in Wikipedia:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sub specie aeternitatis (Latin for "under the aspect of eternity"),[1]
>>>>> is,
>>>>> from Baruch Spinoza onwards, an honorific expression describing what is
>>>>> universally and eternally true, without any reference to or dependence
>>>>> upon
>>>>> the temporal portions of reality.
>>>>>
>>>>> In clearer English, sub specie aeternitatis roughly means "from the
>>>>> perspective of the eternal". Even more loosely, the phrase is used to
>>>>> describe an alternative or objective point of view.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Mike Jing
>>>>> <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, there are two other instances of the phrase in the book:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> V239.21-24 So was the Rocket’s terrible passage reduced, literally,
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> bourgeois terms, terms of an equation such as that elegant blend of
>>>>>> philosophy and hardware, abstract change and hinged pivots of real
>>>>>> metals
>>>>>> which describes motion under the aspect of yaw control:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> V411.14-18 Here, here’s the rundown on Kekulé’s problem. Started out
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> become an architect, turned out instead to be one of the Atlantes of
>>>>>> chemistry, most of the organic wing of that useful edifice bearing
>>>>>> down on
>>>>>> top of his head forever—not just under the aspect of IG, but of World,
>>>>>> assuming that’s a distinction you observe, heh, heh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here, it seems to mean "from the perspective of".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And a slight variation:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> V610.3-7 And “Solange,” oddly enough, is dreaming of Bianca too,
>>>>>> though
>>>>>> under a different aspect: it’s of her own child, Ilse, riding lost
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> the Zone on a long freight train that never seems to come to rest. She
>>>>>> isn’t
>>>>>> unhappy, nor is she searching, exactly, for her father. But Leni’s
>>>>>> early
>>>>>> dream for her is coming true. She will not be used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here, it seems to mean "from a different perspective".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Mike Jing
>>>>>> <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So it's definitely a reference to astrology then? I wasn't sure if
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> phrase "under the aspect of" is actually used in that context.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 4:54 AM, Dave Monroe
>>>>>>> <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "In astrology, an aspect is an angle the planets make to each other
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the horoscope, and also to the ascendant, midheaven, descendant and
>>>>>>>> nadir. The aspects are measured by the angular distance along the
>>>>>>>> ecliptic in degrees and minutes of celestial longitude between two
>>>>>>>> points, as viewed from the earth. They indicate focal points in the
>>>>>>>> horoscope where the energies involved are given extra emphasis. The
>>>>>>>> astrological aspects are said to influence affairs on Earth
>>>>>>>> according
>>>>>>>> to millennia of astrological tradition."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.ancient-symbols.com/astrology_symbols.html (scroll down
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> symbols)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Dave Monroe
>>>>>>>> <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "n astrology, an aspect is an angle the planets make to each other
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the horoscope, and also to the ascendant, midheaven, descendant,
>>>>>>>>> lower
>>>>>>>>> midheaven, and other points of astrological interest. Aspects are
>>>>>>>>> measured by the angular distance in degrees and minutes of
>>>>>>>>> ecliptic
>>>>>>>>> longitudebetween two points, as viewed from Earth. According to
>>>>>>>>> astrological tradition, they indicate the timing of transitions
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> developmental changes in the lives of people and affairs relative
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> the Earth."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Mike Jing
>>>>>>>>> <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> V643.7-15 “Hey Pensiero,” calls Paddy McGonigle, ya still
>>>>>>>>>> hearin’
>>>>>>>>>> dat
>>>>>>>>>> sound?”
>>>>>>>>>> “Yeah uh I t’ink it’s a mouth-organ,” Pensiero busily
>>>>>>>>>> combing
>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>> single hairs, cutting each one a slightly different length, going
>>>>>>>>>> back again
>>>>>>>>>> and again to touch up here and there . . . God is who knows their
>>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>>> Atropos is who severs them to different lengths. So, God under
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> aspect of
>>>>>>>>>> Atropos, she who cannot be turned, is in possession of Eddie
>>>>>>>>>> Pensiero
>>>>>>>>>> tonight.
>>>>>>>>>> “I got your mouth organ,” jeers Paddy, “right here! Look!
>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>> wop
>>>>>>>>>> clarinet!”
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What does "under the aspect of" mean here?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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