GR translation: God under the aspect of Atropos
Mike Jing
gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com
Wed Sep 9 06:42:52 CDT 2015
OK, so you mean I should have searched the archives. My apologies.
However, if you have better things to do than wasting time responding to my
dumb question, please feel free to ignore me. I do appreciate all the help
you have given me. So thank you, and good luck.
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 3:55 AM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
wrote:
> You've never read me much @ all, David, not closely, except when
> acting as wingman to Robt. Jackson (am I the only one who actually
> read his Pynchon Notes essay? I couldn't believe the hassle I was
> taking from a guy whose intertextual modus operandi turned out to be
> quite similar to mine, but even MORE speculative, whom I also caught
> altering Wikipedia entries to support himself).
>
> Obviously.
>
> But I wasn't )(necessarily) talking to you.
>
> Me, I scan through, see if it's worth my time to respond, or if I even
> have a response to make. What I tend to skip over are the cursory
> replies.
>
> I just handed y'all a couple/three connection betwixt "shaken skies'
> and the 1st sentence of GR, for example, w/ either relevant text
> types/C'd 'n' p'd, or bookmarked @ relevant links.
>
> I've tried to believe I don't HAVE to do the dirty work for y'all, but ...
>
> I only post text when I feel I may have to lead people by the nose to
> something.
>
> I used to actually type in (vs. cut and paste) entire pages/chapters
> of books here, entire journal articles, or @ least the relevant parts.
> I don't have the time/space/will/energy anymore.
>
> Do note when I post a link to the archives. There a Reasons I put all
> that stuff in there.
>
> I actually got more done when I was working around the clock here than
> in my 5+ years of unemployment since.
>
> I'm just taken aback by how much of what I've already posted gets repeated
> here.
>
> I don't have much time left to me, I'd hoped to make a contrution of
> some sort to somewhere of som sort, but ...
>
> ...but 20+ years down the drain here, apparently.
>
> Fuck it.
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 8:10 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Unless I'm given a synopsis of sorts, I delete all posts, without
> clicking,
> > that are links only. If the person posting can't be bothered, neither
> can
> > I.
> >
> > David Morris
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I guess I can assume nobody ever actually reads my notes here, alas.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Mike Jing <
> gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Thanks, Monte. That's what comes up on top in Google. I'm just not
> sure
> >> > if
> >> > there's any extended meaning I'm missing in "God under the aspect of
> >> > Atropos".
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Perspective, angle of vision, viewpoint/point of view... compare the
> >> >> cluster here in Wikipedia:
> >> >>
> >> >> Sub specie aeternitatis (Latin for "under the aspect of
> eternity"),[1]
> >> >> is,
> >> >> from Baruch Spinoza onwards, an honorific expression describing what
> is
> >> >> universally and eternally true, without any reference to or
> dependence
> >> >> upon
> >> >> the temporal portions of reality.
> >> >>
> >> >> In clearer English, sub specie aeternitatis roughly means "from the
> >> >> perspective of the eternal". Even more loosely, the phrase is used to
> >> >> describe an alternative or objective point of view.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Mike Jing
> >> >> <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Also, there are two other instances of the phrase in the book:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> V239.21-24 So was the Rocket’s terrible passage reduced,
> literally,
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> bourgeois terms, terms of an equation such as that elegant blend of
> >> >>> philosophy and hardware, abstract change and hinged pivots of real
> >> >>> metals
> >> >>> which describes motion under the aspect of yaw control:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> V411.14-18 Here, here’s the rundown on Kekulé’s problem. Started
> out
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> become an architect, turned out instead to be one of the Atlantes of
> >> >>> chemistry, most of the organic wing of that useful edifice bearing
> >> >>> down on
> >> >>> top of his head forever—not just under the aspect of IG, but of
> World,
> >> >>> assuming that’s a distinction you observe, heh, heh.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Here, it seems to mean "from the perspective of".
> >> >>>
> >> >>> And a slight variation:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> V610.3-7 And “Solange,” oddly enough, is dreaming of Bianca too,
> >> >>> though
> >> >>> under a different aspect: it’s of her own child, Ilse, riding lost
> >> >>> through
> >> >>> the Zone on a long freight train that never seems to come to rest.
> She
> >> >>> isn’t
> >> >>> unhappy, nor is she searching, exactly, for her father. But Leni’s
> >> >>> early
> >> >>> dream for her is coming true. She will not be used.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Here, it seems to mean "from a different perspective".
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Please correct me if I'm wrong.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Mike Jing
> >> >>> <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> So it's definitely a reference to astrology then? I wasn't sure if
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>> phrase "under the aspect of" is actually used in that context.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 4:54 AM, Dave Monroe
> >> >>>> <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> "In astrology, an aspect is an angle the planets make to each
> other
> >> >>>>> in
> >> >>>>> the horoscope, and also to the ascendant, midheaven, descendant
> and
> >> >>>>> nadir. The aspects are measured by the angular distance along the
> >> >>>>> ecliptic in degrees and minutes of celestial longitude between two
> >> >>>>> points, as viewed from the earth. They indicate focal points in
> the
> >> >>>>> horoscope where the energies involved are given extra emphasis.
> The
> >> >>>>> astrological aspects are said to influence affairs on Earth
> >> >>>>> according
> >> >>>>> to millennia of astrological tradition."
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> [...]
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> http://www.ancient-symbols.com/astrology_symbols.html (scroll
> down
> >> >>>>> for
> >> >>>>> symbols)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Dave Monroe
> >> >>>>> <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>> > "n astrology, an aspect is an angle the planets make to each
> other
> >> >>>>> > in
> >> >>>>> > the horoscope, and also to the ascendant, midheaven, descendant,
> >> >>>>> > lower
> >> >>>>> > midheaven, and other points of astrological interest. Aspects
> are
> >> >>>>> > measured by the angular distance in degrees and minutes of
> >> >>>>> > ecliptic
> >> >>>>> > longitudebetween two points, as viewed from Earth. According to
> >> >>>>> > astrological tradition, they indicate the timing of transitions
> >> >>>>> > and
> >> >>>>> > developmental changes in the lives of people and affairs
> relative
> >> >>>>> > to
> >> >>>>> > the Earth."
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > [...]
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Mike Jing
> >> >>>>> > <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>> >> V643.7-15 “Hey Pensiero,” calls Paddy McGonigle, ya still
> >> >>>>> >> hearin’
> >> >>>>> >> dat
> >> >>>>> >> sound?”
> >> >>>>> >> “Yeah uh I t’ink it’s a mouth-organ,” Pensiero busily
> >> >>>>> >> combing
> >> >>>>> >> up
> >> >>>>> >> single hairs, cutting each one a slightly different length,
> going
> >> >>>>> >> back again
> >> >>>>> >> and again to touch up here and there . . . God is who knows
> their
> >> >>>>> >> number.
> >> >>>>> >> Atropos is who severs them to different lengths. So, God under
> >> >>>>> >> the
> >> >>>>> >> aspect of
> >> >>>>> >> Atropos, she who cannot be turned, is in possession of Eddie
> >> >>>>> >> Pensiero
> >> >>>>> >> tonight.
> >> >>>>> >> “I got your mouth organ,” jeers Paddy, “right here!
> Look!
> >> >>>>> >> A
> >> >>>>> >> wop
> >> >>>>> >> clarinet!”
> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>>>> >> What does "under the aspect of" mean here?
> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> -
> >> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>
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