BtZ42, p.21

[Joseph Tracy]

Same Here. They seemed to think I was lying, which I wasn’t.
> On Apr 6, 2016, at 1:12 PM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I flunked the MMPI twice due to the 'lie factor' that weeds out people who think too much about the questions and try to answer questions that require nuance with T/F responses. The test administrator finally decided I think too much and sent me off to college. I still pride myself on flunking the personality test, though. I also think Tyrone and I would have been runnin' buddies, for what that's worth.
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> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:39 AM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
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> If the narrator is reliable ( a questionable assumption), here are some sample questions:
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> https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1109032158
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> There seems to be a built-in lie assessment tool:
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> http://psychcentral.com/lib/minnesota-multiphasic-personality-inventory-mmpi/
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> Personally, statements such as "I loved my father" seem impossible to answer with a simple T/F.
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> Drop-the-handkerchief? Could that still be on the test?
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> LK
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Mark Kohut 
> Sent: Apr 6, 2016 10:34 AM 
> To: nick heindl 
> Cc: pynchon -l 
> Subject: Re: BtZ42, p.21 
> 
> When I felt innocently confident of my own self, only shadowily aware of all the forces that had shaped
> my personality, I remember feeling almost personally offended when I learned that I might have taken 
> the MMPI. ......
> Fuck the test-givers, I'm me and not measurable this way. I wanted to be "free" of such
> controlling measurements---which, sea-changed and differently deeper, we will see in Slothrop, who 
> is easy to identify with here. 
> 
> pull quote from wikipedia article:
> "The MMPI was designed as an adult measure of psychopathology and personality structure in 1939."
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Multiphasic_Personality_Inventory
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> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 6:04 PM, nick heindl <nheindl13 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Not really sure where to start, this is my first time hosting, and as a long-time lurker it can be intimidating trying to keep up... so I am just going to Dive Right In. Side note I am typing on my tablet which can be a pain in the ass so if some of the formatting is off sorry in advance but in the spirit of Pynchon it does seem to have a thing for capitalization...
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> "This morning in his IN basket were orders sending him TDY some hospital out in the East end. No explanation beyond an attached carbon copy of a note to ACHTUNG requesting his reassignment " as part of the P.W.E. Testing program."
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> Testing? And by whom? Slothrop thinking of P.W.E. as more of that Minnesota Multiphasic shit... Minnesota Multiphasic shit??
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> Sorry if I'm missing or repeating anything I've been unable to keep up with the discussion the past few days.
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