BtZ42, p.21

[Ian Livingston]

Every instrument has its flaws. Humans interpret those assessments
according to their prejudices and expectations.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> Same Here. They seemed to think I was lying, which I wasn’t.
> > On Apr 6, 2016, at 1:12 PM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I flunked the MMPI twice due to the 'lie factor' that weeds out people
> who think too much about the questions and try to answer questions that
> require nuance with T/F responses. The test administrator finally decided I
> think too much and sent me off to college. I still pride myself on flunking
> the personality test, though. I also think Tyrone and I would have been
> runnin' buddies, for what that's worth.
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:39 AM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> > If the narrator is reliable ( a questionable assumption), here are some
> sample questions:
> >
> > https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1109032158
> >
> > There seems to be a built-in lie assessment tool:
> >
> >
> http://psychcentral.com/lib/minnesota-multiphasic-personality-inventory-mmpi/
> >
> > Personally, statements such as "I loved my father" seem impossible to
> answer with a simple T/F.
> >
> > Drop-the-handkerchief? Could that still be on the test?
> >
> > LK
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Kohut
> > Sent: Apr 6, 2016 10:34 AM
> > To: nick heindl
> > Cc: pynchon -l
> > Subject: Re: BtZ42, p.21
> >
> > When I felt innocently confident of my own self, only shadowily aware of
> all the forces that had shaped
> > my personality, I remember feeling almost personally offended when I
> learned that I might have taken
> > the MMPI. ......
> > Fuck the test-givers, I'm me and not measurable this way. I wanted to be
> "free" of such
> > controlling measurements---which, sea-changed and differently deeper, we
> will see in Slothrop, who
> > is easy to identify with here.
> >
> > pull quote from wikipedia article:
> > "The MMPI was designed as an adult measure of psychopathology and
> personality structure in 1939."
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Multiphasic_Personality_Inventory
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 6:04 PM, nick heindl <nheindl13 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Not really sure where to start, this is my first time hosting, and as a
> long-time lurker it can be intimidating trying to keep up... so I am just
> going to Dive Right In. Side note I am typing on my tablet which can be a
> pain in the ass so if some of the formatting is off sorry in advance but in
> the spirit of Pynchon it does seem to have a thing for capitalization...
> >
> > "This morning in his IN basket were orders sending him TDY some hospital
> out in the East end. No explanation beyond an attached carbon copy of a
> note to ACHTUNG requesting his reassignment " as part of the P.W.E. Testing
> program."
> >
> > Testing? And by whom? Slothrop thinking of P.W.E. as more of that
> Minnesota Multiphasic shit... Minnesota Multiphasic shit??
> >
> > Sorry if I'm missing or repeating anything I've been unable to keep up
> with the discussion the past few days.
> >
> >
> > - Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
> >
>
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