BtZ42, p.17: sandbagged

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Thu Apr 7 19:13:59 CDT 2016


Ish/Terrance,

A myth you have used. Your attributing it to Pynchon is dishonest, but
that's common for your statements. Bombast isn't authority.  This list is
smarter than your megalomania.  Put up or... well we know you won't shut up.

David Morris

On Thursday, April 7, 2016, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:

>  A myth Pynchon uses.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:23 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
> <lorentzen at hotmail.de <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> >> and that the Germans used the Baedeker
> > stars to select targets to bomb <
> >
> >
> > This is a myth.
> >
> > It's based on a quote by Gustav Braun von Stumm who said in a press
> > conference on 4/24/42:
> >
> > „Now the Luftwaffe will go for every building which is marked with three
> > stars in Baedeker“ („Jetzt wird die Luftwaffe jedes Gebäude mit drei
> Sternen
> > im Baedeker angreifen“)
> >
> > Thing just is that there were no three-stars-marks in the Baedeker,
> neither
> > in the edition from 1937, nor ever before. Even two stars were rare, and
> > cities like Exeter, Bath or Norwich did not belong in that category.
> >
> >> Von Stumms Äußerung war in der Sache falsch, da die Vergabe von drei
> >> Sternen in Baedeker-Reiseführern gar nicht vorkam, auch nicht bei der
> 1937
> >> erschienenen letzten Auflage des Reisehandbuchs für Großbritannien vor
> 1945.
> >> <
> >
> > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baedeker_Blitz
> >
> >
> > On 07.04.2016 12:41, ish mailian wrote:
> >
> > Slothrop's use of stars instead of pins might be his own way of telling
> > Death to fuck off. Something fun happened here. Atta girl!
> >
> > Just another thing to add to the very insightful and wonderful reading
> > of LK here. It's been noted that  Baedecker used stars to rate the
> > tourist locations in England and that the Germans used the Baedecker
> > stars to select targets to bomb. Pynchon, of course, also used the
> > Baedecker, and, as he developed from V. to GR, while P continued to
> > make use of the useful books, critiqued it as a product the Elect's
> > politics and history in/of  Europe.
> >
> >
> > see
> > A Supernatural History of Destruction; or, Thomas Pynchon's Berlin
> >
> > Eric Bulson
> > New German Critique
> > No. 110, COLD WAR CULTURE (Summer 2010), pp. 49-72
> > Published by: Duke University Press
> > -
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> >
> >
> >
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