BtZ42, p.17: sandbagged

[ish mailian]

Maybe we can clear it up later, maybe no.



On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Ray Easton <raymond.lee.easton at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, it is certainly a myth the p-list uses.
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> Does Pynchon himself use it?  That's not clear to me.
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> On April 7, 2016 6:30:55 PM ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>  A myth Pynchon uses.
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>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:23 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
>> <lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
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>>>> and that the Germans used the Baedeker
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>>> stars to select targets to bomb <
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>>> This is a myth.
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>>> It's based on a quote by Gustav Braun von Stumm who said in a press
>>> conference on 4/24/42:
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>>> „Now the Luftwaffe will go for every building which is marked with three
>>> stars in Baedeker“ („Jetzt wird die Luftwaffe jedes Gebäude mit drei
>>> Sternen
>>> im Baedeker angreifen“)
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>>> Thing just is that there were no three-stars-marks in the Baedeker,
>>> neither
>>> in the edition from 1937, nor ever before. Even two stars were rare, and
>>> cities like Exeter, Bath or Norwich did not belong in that category.
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>>>> Von Stumms Äußerung war in der Sache falsch, da die Vergabe von drei
>>>> Sternen in Baedeker-Reiseführern gar nicht vorkam, auch nicht bei der
>>>> 1937
>>>> erschienenen letzten Auflage des Reisehandbuchs für Großbritannien vor
>>>> 1945.
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>>> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baedeker_Blitz
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>>> On 07.04.2016 12:41, ish mailian wrote:
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>>> Slothrop's use of stars instead of pins might be his own way of telling
>>> Death to fuck off. Something fun happened here. Atta girl!
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>>> Just another thing to add to the very insightful and wonderful reading
>>> of LK here. It's been noted that  Baedecker used stars to rate the
>>> tourist locations in England and that the Germans used the Baedecker
>>> stars to select targets to bomb. Pynchon, of course, also used the
>>> Baedecker, and, as he developed from V. to GR, while P continued to
>>> make use of the useful books, critiqued it as a product the Elect's
>>> politics and history in/of  Europe.
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>>> see
>>> A Supernatural History of Destruction; or, Thomas Pynchon's Berlin
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>>> Eric Bulson
>>> New German Critique
>>> No. 110, COLD WAR CULTURE (Summer 2010), pp. 49-72
>>> Published by: Duke University Press
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