BtZ42 Section six. PP 38-42 (miller edition)

[Joseph Tracy]

Well considered. My feeling is that there is both something real  in this love affair and something dreamy and naive. Not the first or last instance of that. For Mexico though, it may take on the quality of a  powerful gauge of what is real. To really love is to enter into a deep state of empathy that can change the way one sees both  intimate and power relations. Jessica seems ultimately to move toward security where RM comes away looking for integrity.
> On Apr 20, 2016, at 7:40 AM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> When I first read this part of GR in my 20s I thought Roger andy
> Jessica were the kind of fictional couple meant to offer hope or at
> least some optimism for the reader. "They are in love. Fuck the war."
> That now seems to me more ironic. Hollywood love is not an effective
> anti-war strategy. Connect with AN ARMY OF LOVERS CAN BE BEATEN,
> later. Or how Pirate, who we might figure is our hero at first,
> becomes so sexually/politically manipulable so quickly. How so many of
> these players are sexual marionettes!
> 
> I'm not arguing that Pynchon is arguing anything, but read in the
> light of 1970s free love and the political shit going on and the
> uneasy relationships between the sexual revolution and feminism and I
> feel this whole thread of the novel records a pulse we have yet to
> gauge.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Not much happens, but a fair amount gets stated (framed). Roger & Jessica are driving east to meet Pointsman and be part of his dognapping scheme. But they "want to be together, in bed, at rest, in love" ( tied up at the end of the section with another scene of being together, "touches and looks, smiles together, curses for parting".   This ending with the memorable "they are in love. Fuck the war". )
>> We get the flashback story of their cute meet. Busted bike, slip and thighs showing, rom com initial put downs (P has signaled the Hollywood lensing) bike smashed and she's " in his power."
>> UTTERLY. (But Roger knows she isn't)
>> Then a rocket lands. The War intrudes.
>> We learn more about Roger ( which we will get to elsewhere)
>> Then we are with First Responders and the bombed.
>> "War's state"
>> Roger is part of The White Visitation and The Home Front is..."fiction and a lie".
>> Fuck the war.
>> 
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