Re: GR translation: Slothrop’s Visitor

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Mon Apr 25 14:20:11 CDT 2016


I have always read "Slothrop's Visitor" as Death ala Death in The Seventh
Seal. just fyi.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 3:12 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:

> Hearkening back to the tombstones in the graveyard where Slothrop's
> ancestors are interred, Death is capitalized (once, as Insatiate Death).
> The scrawled lines of carbon on a wall could refer to the weird death of
> Hiroshima victims whose "shadows" were etched on walls.
>
> Laura
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Jing
> Sent: Apr 25, 2016 7:53 AM
> To: David Morris
> Cc: Monte Davis , Pynchon Mailing List
> Subject: Re: GR translation: Slothrop’s Visitor
>
> Oh, there's no question that he uses them very carefully.
>
> Thanks for the reply, Monte, David, and Mark.
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 11:14 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> All these Visitors have in common a form of another's presence (visit)
>> that is questionable as to its reality.  I firmly believe that Pynchon uses
>> these capitalized words very carefully, and that they can be triangulated.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The only other capitalized Visitors I find:
>>>
>>> (V262, in Zurich)
>>> "The spies and dealers have all gone indoors. Semyavin’s place is out,
>>> the Waxwing circle have been kind, no point bringing any heat down on them.
>>> How much weight do the Visitors have in this town? Can Slothrop risk
>>> checking in to another hotel? Probably not. It’s getting cold. A wind is
>>> coming in now off the lake."
>>>
>>> (V523, among Christian's gas-sniffing hallucinations - Moss Creature,
>>> Fungus Pygmies) "... or how about the Water Giant, a mile-high Visitor
>>> made all of flowing water who likes to dance, twisting from the waist, arms
>>> blowing loosely along the sky."
>>>
>>> Not sure what you can triangulate from that, but at least blazes on the
>>> trees...* in hoc signo vinces...*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 4:15 AM, Mike Jing <
>>> gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> V742.13-19, P756.39-757.4   Light in the sky is stretched and clear,
>>>> exactly like taffy after no more than the first two pulls.
>>>>        “Dying a weird death,” Slothrop’s Visitor by this time may be
>>>> scrawled lines of carbon on a wall, voices down a chimney, some human being
>>>> out on the road, “the object of life is to make sure you die a weird death.
>>>> To make sure that however it finds you, it will find you under very weird
>>>> circumstances. To live that kind of life. . . .”
>>>>
>>>> What is "Slothrop’s Visitor" exactly?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> - Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
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