Re: GR translation: Slothrop’s Visitor
Mark Kohut
mark.kohut at gmail.com
Mon Apr 25 14:22:30 CDT 2016
Or the voice or whisper of Death.
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have always read "Slothrop's Visitor" as Death ala Death in The Seventh
> Seal. just fyi.
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 3:12 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> Hearkening back to the tombstones in the graveyard where Slothrop's
>> ancestors are interred, Death is capitalized (once, as Insatiate Death).
>> The scrawled lines of carbon on a wall could refer to the weird death of
>> Hiroshima victims whose "shadows" were etched on walls.
>>
>> Laura
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Jing
>> Sent: Apr 25, 2016 7:53 AM
>> To: David Morris
>> Cc: Monte Davis , Pynchon Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: GR translation: Slothrop’s Visitor
>>
>> Oh, there's no question that he uses them very carefully.
>>
>> Thanks for the reply, Monte, David, and Mark.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 11:14 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> All these Visitors have in common a form of another's presence (visit)
>>> that is questionable as to its reality. I firmly believe that Pynchon uses
>>> these capitalized words very carefully, and that they can be triangulated.
>>>
>>> David Morris
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The only other capitalized Visitors I find:
>>>>
>>>> (V262, in Zurich)
>>>> "The spies and dealers have all gone indoors. Semyavin’s place is out,
>>>> the Waxwing circle have been kind, no point bringing any heat down on them.
>>>> How much weight do the Visitors have in this town? Can Slothrop risk
>>>> checking in to another hotel? Probably not. It’s getting cold. A wind is
>>>> coming in now off the lake."
>>>>
>>>> (V523, among Christian's gas-sniffing hallucinations - Moss Creature,
>>>> Fungus Pygmies) "... or how about the Water Giant, a mile-high Visitor
>>>> made all of flowing water who likes to dance, twisting from the waist, arms
>>>> blowing loosely along the sky."
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what you can triangulate from that, but at least blazes on the
>>>> trees...* in hoc signo vinces...*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 4:15 AM, Mike Jing <
>>>> gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> V742.13-19, P756.39-757.4 Light in the sky is stretched and clear,
>>>>> exactly like taffy after no more than the first two pulls.
>>>>> “Dying a weird death,” Slothrop’s Visitor by this time may be
>>>>> scrawled lines of carbon on a wall, voices down a chimney, some human being
>>>>> out on the road, “the object of life is to make sure you die a weird death.
>>>>> To make sure that however it finds you, it will find you under very weird
>>>>> circumstances. To live that kind of life. . . .”
>>>>>
>>>>> What is "Slothrop’s Visitor" exactly?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> - Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
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