Re: GR translation: Slothrop’s Visitor

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Mon Apr 25 15:09:16 CDT 2016


There is also a Pynchon Notes citation that the snippet does not access.
But if anyone has, maybe something???

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 3:41 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> Not worth much...
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> in one of only three Google Books citations for "Slothrop's Visitor", a
>> book sez this:
>>
>> "in the last pages Slothrop scattered becomes "Slothrop's Visitor".......
>>
>> for what it is worth.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Or the voice or whisper of Death.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have always read "Slothrop's Visitor" as Death ala Death in The
>>>> Seventh Seal. just fyi.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 3:12 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hearkening back to the tombstones in the graveyard where Slothrop's
>>>>> ancestors are interred, Death is capitalized (once, as Insatiate Death).
>>>>> The scrawled lines of carbon on a wall could refer to the weird death of
>>>>> Hiroshima victims whose "shadows" were etched on walls.
>>>>>
>>>>> Laura
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Mike Jing
>>>>> Sent: Apr 25, 2016 7:53 AM
>>>>> To: David Morris
>>>>> Cc: Monte Davis , Pynchon Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: GR translation: Slothrop’s Visitor
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, there's no question that he uses them very carefully.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the reply, Monte, David, and Mark.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 11:14 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> All these Visitors have in common a form of another's presence
>>>>>> (visit) that is questionable as to its reality.  I firmly believe that
>>>>>> Pynchon uses these capitalized words very carefully, and that they can be
>>>>>> triangulated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Morris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only other capitalized Visitors I find:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (V262, in Zurich)
>>>>>>> "The spies and dealers have all gone indoors. Semyavin’s place is
>>>>>>> out, the Waxwing circle have been kind, no point bringing any heat down on
>>>>>>> them. How much weight do the Visitors have in this town? Can
>>>>>>> Slothrop risk checking in to another hotel? Probably not. It’s getting
>>>>>>> cold. A wind is coming in now off the lake."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (V523, among Christian's gas-sniffing hallucinations - Moss
>>>>>>> Creature, Fungus Pygmies) "... or how about the Water Giant, a
>>>>>>> mile-high Visitor made all of flowing water who likes to dance, twisting
>>>>>>> from the waist, arms blowing loosely along the sky."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not sure what you can triangulate from that, but at least blazes on
>>>>>>> the trees...* in hoc signo vinces...*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 4:15 AM, Mike Jing <
>>>>>>> gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> V742.13-19, P756.39-757.4   Light in the sky is stretched and
>>>>>>>> clear, exactly like taffy after no more than the first two pulls.
>>>>>>>>        “Dying a weird death,” Slothrop’s Visitor by this time may
>>>>>>>> be scrawled lines of carbon on a wall, voices down a chimney, some human
>>>>>>>> being out on the road, “the object of life is to make sure you die a weird
>>>>>>>> death. To make sure that however it finds you, it will find you under very
>>>>>>>> weird circumstances. To live that kind of life. . . .”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is "Slothrop’s Visitor" exactly?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> - Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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