GR translation: until the monitors are there in blashing sheets of earth

Mike Jing gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com
Sat Apr 30 18:26:05 CDT 2016


Yeah, it certainly looks that way.

On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 2:31 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> A thought just popped in:  Monitor sound like Minotaur.  I think this
> whole passage uses sound associations for other words or phrases that do
> have meaning.
>
> Pointsman has a recurring dream of being chased and caught by a minotaur
> in the first chapter.  I haven't tried to dig deeper.  I think this passage
> can be interpreted, but not translated.
>
> David Morris
>
>
>
> I think the whole passage uses words used for sound associations with
> other words or phrases.
>
>
> On Saturday, April 30, 2016, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, David and Mark.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 7:25 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A fun search online seems to show this: 'monitor' is a concept from
>>> Norman O. Brown (again seemingly adapted from some cultural
>>> anthropologists' notions) but used in his two major books.
>>>
>>> The monitor, a construct obviously,  mediates between Eros and Thanatos
>>> is what is implied.
>>>
>>> Seed in his book on Pynchon writes: "The same threatening monitor is
>>> present ('Lord of the Night'), the same helplessness......this snippet goes
>>> on to say "this notion was further developed by Norman O. Brown" but I can
>>> draw
>>> up only that snippet...
>>>
>>> Per the inestimable Morris, yes, I think Joyce is being alluded to 1)
>>> famous Leopold Bloom scene on the toilet  2) perhaps the Nighttown sequence
>>> but surely Finnegans Wakeian dream language...
>>>
>>> and GR transition states....
>>>
>>> All wrapped in a classic N.O. Brownian theme.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 8:41 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Your call is as good as any.  This is probably Pynchon's attempt at
>>>> imitating Finnegan's Wake.
>>>>
>>>> David Morris
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 7:16 AM, Mike Jing <
>>>> gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> V746.2-13, P760.33-761.4   And here he is himself, the big ham,
>>>>> sitting on the toilet, a . . . well what appears to be an unusually large
>>>>> infant’s training toilet, up between the sitter’s legs rises the porcelain
>>>>> head of a jackal with what, embarrassingly, proves to be a reefer, in its
>>>>> rather loosely smiling mouth—“Through evil and eagles,” blithers the
>>>>> Springer, “the climate blondes its way, for they are no strength under the
>>>>> coarse war. No not for roguery until the monitors are there in blashing
>>>>> sheets of earth to mate and say medoshnicka bleelar medoometnozz in
>>>>> bergamot and playful fantasy under the throne and nose of the least
>>>>> merciful king. . . .” well, there is a good deal of this sort of thing, and
>>>>> a good time to nip out for popcorn, which in the Platz turn out to be
>>>>> morning-glory seeds popped into little stilled brown explosions.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know it appears to be gibberish, but what's the most likely sense of
>>>>> the word "monitor" here?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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