Re: GR translation: It isn’t politics or fuck-your-buddy

[Mark Kohut]

A--andAlternative name[edit
<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=So_Long_Sucker&action=edit&section=2>
]

Nash's original name for the game, before it was published as *So Long
Sucker*, was *Fuck Your Buddy*.[2]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_Long_Sucker#cite_note-2> The first
episode of Adam Curtis <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Curtis>'s
documentary *The Trap*
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trap_(television_documentary_series)>,
which looked at Nash's work, was subtitled "F**k You Buddy".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_Long_Sucker


Seems Thomas Berger put it into Crazy in Berlin, his first novel, in 1958.
About a WW2 Corporal. Berger was loosely associated by some reviewers in
the sixties with Pynchon, just sayin'. Before Gravity's Rainbow I wanted to
read him before Pynchon. Seems about no one reads him anymore, anyone,
anyone?
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0199751552
Jesse Sheidlower - 2009 - ‎Reference
1958 T. Berger Crazy in Berlin 302: What is this, fuck-your-buddy week?




On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com> wrote:

> "Devil take the hindmost": pure animal self-interest, the obverse and dark
> twin of "band of brothers," comrades in arms, etc etc etc. Yes, that
> much-celebrated bonding happens... but so does the battlefield equivalent
> of the good old civilian "I disliked that guy the first time I laid eyes on
> him."
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:05 PM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> V331.19-27, P336.13-21   . . . . Geli snickering in the darkness. They
>> must have known her. They didn’t ask her anything.
>>        When he brought it up later, she wasn’t sure just what this is
>> between Tchitcherine and the Africans, but whatever it is it’s being
>> carried on with high passion.
>>        “It’s hate, all right,” she said. “Stupid, stupid—The war’s
>> over. It isn’t politics or fuck-your-buddy, it’s old-time, pure,
>> personal hate.”
>>        “Enzian?”
>>        “I think so.”
>>
>> What kind of sentiment does "fuck-your-buddy" imply here?
>> -
>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>>
>
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