Re: GR translation: It isn’t politics or fuck-your-buddy
Glenn fuller
glennfuller at sbcglobal.net
Wed Aug 31 11:15:51 CDT 2016
A very cynical pragmatism... Willingness to do anything to survive
On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 7:39 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
A--and
Alternative name[edit]
Nash's original name for the game, before it was published as So Long Sucker, was Fuck Your Buddy.[2] The first episode of Adam Curtis's documentary The Trap, which looked at Nash's work, was subtitled "F**k You Buddy".https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ So_Long_Sucker
Seems Thomas Berger put it into Crazy in Berlin, his first novel, in 1958.
About a WW2 Corporal. Berger was loosely associated by some reviewers in the sixties with Pynchon, just sayin'. Before Gravity's Rainbow I wanted to read him before Pynchon. Seems about no one reads him anymore, anyone, anyone? https://books.google.com/ books?isbn=0199751552Jesse Sheidlower - 2009 - Reference1958 T. Berger Crazy in Berlin 302: What is this, fuck-your-buddy week?
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com> wrote:
"Devil take the hindmost": pure animal self-interest, the obverse and dark twin of "band of brothers," comrades in arms, etc etc etc. Yes, that much-celebrated bonding happens... but so does the battlefield equivalent of the good old civilian "I disliked that guy the first time I laid eyes on him."
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:05 PM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com > wrote:
V331.19-27, P336.13-21 . . . . Geli snickering in the darkness. They
must have known her. They didn’t ask her anything.
When he brought it up later, she wasn’t sure just what this is
between Tchitcherine and the Africans, but whatever it is it’s being
carried on with high passion.
“It’s hate, all right,” she said. “Stupid, stupid—The war’s
over. It isn’t politics or fuck-your-buddy, it’s old-time, pure,
personal hate.”
“Enzian?”
“I think so.”
What kind of sentiment does "fuck-your-buddy" imply here?
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