Re: GR translation: It’s the most disgustin’ thing I ever seed!

[David Morris]

Sometimes silly is just silly.

On Sunday, December 4, 2016, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> I too have read it as a hick's way of speaking, as another of P's silly
> dumbed down joke verses, but, in a reading that was not my first, I also
> freely associated as harmonic overtones, say, the direction Jochen
> sketches......I will bet other readers Everywhere and on this list, also
> felt some verbal friction going on with that word. It's there in English.
> ......Shakespeare gets smart/ lucky that way, not to mention Joyce ( and
> I'm sure others I don't know).
> How did the ditty (see) come to him? We've read writers on the unique ways
> whole books have been born in them, not just 6 line song ditties; weed,
> dope, seed(s), seeing all the greed, easy peasy and it becomes what it is...
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 4, 2016, at 10:46 AM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jstremmel at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> I don't know, Laura and Mike, but if "seed" could be the dialectal form of
> "seeded" (or it could be the infinitive, of course, because he keeps on
> seeding) it would make better sense with the following lines: turning you –
> feelin' fine – into swine by seeding – sowing – doper's greed.
>
> 2016-12-04 11:17 GMT+01:00 Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mark.kohut at gmail.com');>>:
>
>> Also, has roots:
>>
>> seed - Wiktionary <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/seed>
>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/*seed*
>> <https://www.google.com/#>
>>
>>    1.
>>    <https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:dUcaVOrCzHgJ:https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/seed+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us>
>>    2.
>>    <https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&safe=active&biw=1324&bih=876&q=related:https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/seed+'seed+as+past+tense+of+see%22&tbo=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwibnfCkp9rQAhXOxyYKHSvqD5sQHwgfMAA>
>>
>> From Middle English seed, sede, side, from Old English sēd, sǣd (“seed,
>> that which is sown”), from ..... (dialectal) simple past tense and past
>> participle of see ...
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 2:51 AM, kelber at mindspring.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelber at mindspring.com');> <
>> kelber at mindspring.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelber at mindspring.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> I can't see any other meaning than the one you suggest. The
>>> ungrammatical conjugation of the verb gives the verse a dumbed down feel.
>>>
>>> LK
>>>
>>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>> V534.3-8, P543.6-11
>>>        Doper’s greed,
>>>        Oh, doper’s greed!
>>>        It’s the most disgustin’ thing I ever seed!
>>>        When you’re out there feelin’ fine,
>>>        It’ll turn you into swine,
>>>        If you ever get a taste of DOPER’S GREED!
>>>
>>> Is the word "seed" here used as the past tense of "see" because of the
>>> rhyme, or is it something else?
>>> -
>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>>>
>>
>>
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