Re: GR translation: It’s the most disgustin’ thing I ever seed!

[Mark Kohut]

I too have read it as a hick's way of speaking, as another of P's silly dumbed down joke verses, but, in a reading that was not my first, I also freely associated as harmonic overtones, say, the direction Jochen sketches......I will bet other readers Everywhere and on this list, also felt some verbal friction going on with that word. It's there in English. ......Shakespeare gets smart/ lucky that way, not to mention Joyce ( and I'm sure others I don't know).  
How did the ditty (see) come to him? We've read writers on the unique ways whole books have been born in them, not just 6 line song ditties; weed, dope, seed(s), seeing all the greed, easy peasy and it becomes what it is...

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> On Dec 4, 2016, at 10:46 AM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't know, Laura and Mike, but if "seed" could be the dialectal form of "seeded" (or it could be the infinitive, of course, because he keeps on seeding) it would make better sense with the following lines: turning you – feelin' fine – into swine by seeding – sowing – doper's greed.
> 
> 2016-12-04 11:17 GMT+01:00 Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:
>> Also, has roots:
>> 
>> seed - Wiktionary
>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/seed
>> From Middle English seed, sede, side, from Old English sēd, sǣd (“seed, that which is sown”), from ..... (dialectal) simple past tense and past participle of see ...
>> 
>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 2:51 AM, kelber at mindspring.com <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>> I can't see any other meaning than the one you suggest. The ungrammatical conjugation of the verb gives the verse a dumbed down feel.
>>> 
>>> LK
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> V534.3-8, P543.6-11
>>>        Doper’s greed,
>>>        Oh, doper’s greed!
>>>        It’s the most disgustin’ thing I ever seed!
>>>        When you’re out there feelin’ fine,
>>>        It’ll turn you into swine,
>>>        If you ever get a taste of DOPER’S GREED!
>>> 
>>> Is the word "seed" here used as the past tense of "see" because of the
>>> rhyme, or is it something else?
>>> -
>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
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