(np) The Future of Jihadism in Europe

[David Morris]

So many European chickens are coming home to roost, literally.  The
establishment of Israel is just one, but a big one.

The abandonment or defeat of the European empire in the Mideast was
followed by the US, and later by Russian attempts to adopt these newly
formed "nations," but these adoptions have always failed.  Our failure is
obvious out there, and it is a big source of present scorn and resentment.
We're hated not for the currently stagnant economies, which would have
passed without such violence.  We're hated because we have upset their
previous tribal balances by way of inserting ourselves into their world as
the New Coquerers. An similar example of that dynamic is Trump's core base
being much more tribe-identity motivated than economically motivated.

That's my take,
David Morris


On Thursday, December 22, 2016, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:

> The jibe was not at Europeans who can't stomach a satire of the state
> of affairs and/or recent events, but at those who describe the current
> state and the future with ridiculous terms, neo-liberal economic terms
> such as the utterly ridiculous description of veteran jihadist who
> recruit youngsters as entrepreneurs. That said, if the weak economics
> are what are driving the violence up, there is no solution in Europe.
> For nothing, it seems, can make the European economy grow. Nothing
> other than Germany, but Germany doesn't want growth so....
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 5:12 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
> <lorentzen at hotmail.de <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > Here in Europe we don't feel like "satirizing" the issue these days ...
> Many
> > things will change profoundly. Like it or not.  History is here again!
> And
> > Hegghammer's article is a gem.
> >
> >
> > Am 22.12.2016 um 10:30 schrieb John "I know nothing about the social
> > sciences but like to comment on it" Bailey:
> >
> > "economically underperforming Muslim youth"
> > "available jihadi entrepreneurs"
> > "operational freedom for clandestine actors"
> > Is there any novelist satirising the language of professional
> > neoliberal terrorism commentary today? We're in old DeLillo territory
> > here. But writing on terrorism is increasingly framed in economic
> > terms, as is most well-shared writing online.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
> > <lorentzen at hotmail.de <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > Thomas Hegghammer:
> >
> > ... If the jihadi radicalization problem in Europe does indeed get worse,
> > it may be worth considering radical new approaches, both of the soft and
> the
> > hard kind ... <
> >
> > http://www.terrorismanalysts.com/pt/index.php/pot/article/view/566/html
> >
> > This article presents a ten-year forecast for jihadism in Europe. Despite
> > reaching historically high levels in recent years, violent Islamist
> activity
> > in Europe may increase further over the long term due to four
> macro-trends:
> > 1) expected growth in the number of economically underperforming Muslim
> > youth, 2) expected growth in the number of available jihadi
> entrepreneurs,
> > 3) persistent conflict in the Muslim world, and 4) continued operational
> > freedom for clandestine actors on the Internet. Over the next decade, the
> > jihadi attack plot frequency in Europe may follow a fluctuating curve
> with
> > progressively higher peaks. Many things can undercut the trends and lead
> to
> > a less ominous outcome, but the scenario is sufficiently likely to merit
> > attention from policymakers.
> >
> >
> > .
> >
> >
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