Fwd: Wiliam Gibson favored this

Keith Davis kbob42 at gmail.com
Sun Feb 21 13:28:59 CST 2016


Mark and I were talking about excluded middles, and this came up for me...

This makes me think of the discussion I was just now having with one of my
students. We were talking about harmony, and how to know what scales to use
to improvise over which chords. I was telling her that it's a fluid thing.
Harmony isn't frozen, it moves, so things can change. Those in between
things are what I would call an excluded middle, as opposed to rigid
interpretations of harmonic structures. Does that make sense?




On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> yeah, it is in The Crying Of Lot 49, pages 131 or so, when Oedipa is
> reflecting on the
> nature/reality of the Tristero.
>
> Here's a snippet quoting it and same snippet from an essay about it in a
> book on
> Pynchon. Gotten at Google Books:
>
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=5NwF-Gdgg9YC&pg=PA45&dq='excluded+middle%22+%2B+oedipa&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiDypm9gofLAhVHQCYKHWoJDXwQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q='excluded%20middle%22%20%2B%20oedipa&f=false
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mark, can you point me to that excluded middle quote in P?
>>
>> Www.innergroovemusic.com <http://www.innergroovemusic.com>
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 8:45 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Despite the bad judgment of the twitterer---there are scores lamenting
>> thus online---I sent THIS non-fiction piece because
>> I think it is good.....and pynchon-relevant.....that line paragraph "Who
>> is the They?".....fascism as a 'fuzzy totalitarianism"
>> might be one slant on a lot of Pynchon, yes?......Eco on Futurism here
>> mirrors P's....and places it in a real historical
>> context........I had never encountered this piece before....
>>
>> Eco was a semiotician, a Logic founded by C.S. Pierce (and Saussure
>> separately, I gather as Calculus was co-founded
>> by separate folks, they say, or used to) who seems to be known and used a
>> bit by Pynchon in his oeuvre, esp Against the Day
>> maybe but who knows if what he read of whoever and combined with human
>> insights led him to his famous "logical' aphorism
>> on the excluded middle.
>>
>> Just sayin'.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 8:01 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> agree...Just because little else is circulating and his death is a major
>>> 'intellectual' event
>>> and there has to be at least SOMETHING that is worth it, since
>>> everything is connected,
>>> and William Gibson was touched enough to favor and
>>>
>>> I'm done sending Eco stuff but I bet no one comments on the Pynchon
>>> stuff I send.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 7:51 AM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> somebody should perhaps point out to that Eco twitter fan that he was
>>>> no giant at all, quite a good semiotician perhaps but as novelist ... come
>>>> on. (I really don't know why that dwarf has to appear on a P dedicated
>>>> list.)
>>>>
>>>> 2016-02-20 13:09 GMT+01:00 Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> *Nate Bethea (@inthesedeserts
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/inthesedeserts?refsrc=email&s=11>)*
>>>>>
>>>>> 2/19/16, 7:44 PM
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/inthesedeserts/status/700843463613538305?refsrc=email&s=11>
>>>>> Eco was an absolute giant, but his spectacular novels notwithstanding,
>>>>> everyone should read his article “Ur-Fascism” pegc.us/archive/Articl…
>>>>> <https://t.co/PDRMGQlQEH>
>>>>>
>>>>> Download the official Twitter app here
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>


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