Wiliam Gibson favored this
Mark Kohut
mark.kohut at gmail.com
Sun Feb 21 15:53:29 CST 2016
I am also reminded of how Roger Mexico works the spaces
between zero and one....
On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark and I were talking about excluded middles, and this came up for me...
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> This makes me think of the discussion I was just now having with one of my
> students. We were talking about harmony, and how to know what scales to use
> to improvise over which chords. I was telling her that it's a fluid thing.
> Harmony isn't frozen, it moves, so things can change. Those in between
> things are what I would call an excluded middle, as opposed to rigid
> interpretations of harmonic structures. Does that make sense?
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> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> yeah, it is in The Crying Of Lot 49, pages 131 or so, when Oedipa is
>> reflecting on the
>> nature/reality of the Tristero.
>>
>> Here's a snippet quoting it and same snippet from an essay about it in a
>> book on
>> Pynchon. Gotten at Google Books:
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>> https://books.google.com/books?id=5NwF-Gdgg9YC&pg=PA45&dq='excluded+middle%22+%2B+oedipa&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiDypm9gofLAhVHQCYKHWoJDXwQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q='excluded%20middle%22%20%2B%20oedipa&f=false
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>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mark, can you point me to that excluded middle quote in P?
>>>
>>> Www.innergroovemusic.com <http://www.innergroovemusic.com>
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>>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 8:45 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Despite the bad judgment of the twitterer---there are scores lamenting
>>> thus online---I sent THIS non-fiction piece because
>>> I think it is good.....and pynchon-relevant.....that line paragraph "Who
>>> is the They?".....fascism as a 'fuzzy totalitarianism"
>>> might be one slant on a lot of Pynchon, yes?......Eco on Futurism here
>>> mirrors P's....and places it in a real historical
>>> context........I had never encountered this piece before....
>>>
>>> Eco was a semiotician, a Logic founded by C.S. Pierce (and Saussure
>>> separately, I gather as Calculus was co-founded
>>> by separate folks, they say, or used to) who seems to be known and used
>>> a bit by Pynchon in his oeuvre, esp Against the Day
>>> maybe but who knows if what he read of whoever and combined with human
>>> insights led him to his famous "logical' aphorism
>>> on the excluded middle.
>>>
>>> Just sayin'.
>>>
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>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 8:01 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> agree...Just because little else is circulating and his death is a
>>>> major 'intellectual' event
>>>> and there has to be at least SOMETHING that is worth it, since
>>>> everything is connected,
>>>> and William Gibson was touched enough to favor and
>>>>
>>>> I'm done sending Eco stuff but I bet no one comments on the Pynchon
>>>> stuff I send.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 7:51 AM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> somebody should perhaps point out to that Eco twitter fan that he was
>>>>> no giant at all, quite a good semiotician perhaps but as novelist ... come
>>>>> on. (I really don't know why that dwarf has to appear on a P dedicated
>>>>> list.)
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-02-20 13:09 GMT+01:00 Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *Nate Bethea (@inthesedeserts
>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/inthesedeserts?refsrc=email&s=11>)*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2/19/16, 7:44 PM
>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/inthesedeserts/status/700843463613538305?refsrc=email&s=11>
>>>>>> Eco was an absolute giant, but his spectacular novels
>>>>>> notwithstanding, everyone should read his article “Ur-Fascism”
>>>>>> pegc.us/archive/Articl… <https://t.co/PDRMGQlQEH>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Download the official Twitter app here
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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