BE -- "death wish for the planet"

[ish mailian]

Of course, P hedges his satire of Ernie in several ways, not the least
of which is that the text also suggests that his daughters are
attracted to fascists and pigs not because of anything on the Tube or
in Film or mass produced culture (the Tube) but because of something
in them, something in females,  just because they are female, or, to
complicate matters, because of some variation on the Electra Complex
...etc.

Hedging is not quite what he does, it's that ironies, like Jewish
Lefty raised Girl falls for German Commodities trader with fascist
face of Hunky Nazi Hollywood Star than gets fucked in the ass by a
Neo-Con and ends up with his Wife talking US South American
politics.....and on and on turning the old daisy chain of screws so
that we get  hysterically inflated to the bursting point of a million
laughs on every absurdity turned inside out and backward.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 12:30 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 12:28 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ernie is a fool. Not a bad person or anything, a cool old guy who can
>> keep the children amused and tell cold war stories, but a fool who,
>> like so many of his political and paranoid persuasion, applies a
>> paranoid political analysis to his family and parents his children and
>> grandchildren by an analysis that, while theoretically handy for
>> global and national, political, social and cultural stuff, the
>> zeitgeist, the times that are a changing, is useless and even
>> dangerous when applied to one's own life, to one's family and
>> neighborhood. We might think of P's satire of Ernie as a critique,
>> from the Left of the Left's use of Doctor Spock and the debate he was
>> dragged into over the Vietnam War and Resistance to it.
>>
>> Ernie's parenting, his politics, his paranoid politics, about Cop
>> shows and the like, the text makes clear, was what, in large measure,
>> as he admits in this chapter, and as is developed throughout the book,
>> drove his daughters to fascists and pigs.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 2:02 AM, Thomas Eckhardt
>> <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>>> Ernie on the internet in BE:
>>>
>>> "'As it kept growing, it never stopped carrying in his heart a bitter-cold
>>> death wish for the planet, and don't think anything has changed, kid.'"
>>>
>>> BE, 420
>>>
>>> John Kennedy on the search for peace:
>>>
>>> "We must, therefore, preserve in the search for peace in the hope that
>>> constructive changes within the Communist bloc might bring within reach
>>> solutions which now seem beyond us. We must conduct our affairs in such a
>>> way that it becomes in the Communists' interest to agree on a genuine peace.
>>> Above all, while defending our vital interest, nuclear powers must avert
>>> those confrontations which bring an adversary to a choice of either a
>>> humiliating retreat or a nuclear war. To adopt that kind of course in the
>>> nuclear age would be evidence only of the bankruptcy of our policy -- or of
>>> a collective death-wish for the world."
>>>
>>> http://www1.american.edu/media/speeches/Kennedy.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> Kennedy also said:
>>>
>>> "In short, both the United States and its allies, and the Soviet Union and
>>> its allies, have a mutually deep interest in a just and genuine peace and in
>>> halting the arms race. Agreements to this end are in the interests of the
>>> Soviet Union as well as ours -- and even the most hostile nations can be
>>> relied upon to accept and keep those treaty obligations, and only those
>>> treaty obligations, which are in their own interest.
>>>
>>> So, let us not be blind to our differences -- but let us also direct
>>> attention to our common interests and to means by which those differences
>>> can be resolved. And if we cannot end now our differences, at least we can
>>> help make the world safe for diversity. For, in the final analysis, our most
>>> basic common link is that we all inhabit this planet. We all breathe the
>>> same air. We all cherish our children's future. And we are all mortal."
>>>
>>> Quite impressive.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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