BE -- "death wish for the planet"

[ish mailian]

 My bad.  One of her doubles, the Cal gal pal gets fucked in the ass
by the Judgment Horn of Ice, but it's Maxine who has the vision, the
orgasmic apocalyptic vision, sees the ghost in the socket. And that
dialogue with Daytona and the Cal Double ends with what I read as a
rhetorical question: ever tried anal?

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com> wrote:
> Not in the ass! You wish?
>
> 2016-02-27 18:43 GMT+01:00 ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Of course, P hedges his satire of Ernie in several ways, not the least
>> of which is that the text also suggests that his daughters are
>> attracted to fascists and pigs not because of anything on the Tube or
>> in Film or mass produced culture (the Tube) but because of something
>> in them, something in females,  just because they are female, or, to
>> complicate matters, because of some variation on the Electra Complex
>> ...etc.
>>
>> Hedging is not quite what he does, it's that ironies, like Jewish
>> Lefty raised Girl falls for German Commodities trader with fascist
>> face of Hunky Nazi Hollywood Star than gets fucked in the ass by a
>> Neo-Con and ends up with his Wife talking US South American
>> politics.....and on and on turning the old daisy chain of screws so
>> that we get  hysterically inflated to the bursting point of a million
>> laughs on every absurdity turned inside out and backward.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 12:30 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 12:28 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Ernie is a fool. Not a bad person or anything, a cool old guy who can
>> >> keep the children amused and tell cold war stories, but a fool who,
>> >> like so many of his political and paranoid persuasion, applies a
>> >> paranoid political analysis to his family and parents his children and
>> >> grandchildren by an analysis that, while theoretically handy for
>> >> global and national, political, social and cultural stuff, the
>> >> zeitgeist, the times that are a changing, is useless and even
>> >> dangerous when applied to one's own life, to one's family and
>> >> neighborhood. We might think of P's satire of Ernie as a critique,
>> >> from the Left of the Left's use of Doctor Spock and the debate he was
>> >> dragged into over the Vietnam War and Resistance to it.
>> >>
>> >> Ernie's parenting, his politics, his paranoid politics, about Cop
>> >> shows and the like, the text makes clear, was what, in large measure,
>> >> as he admits in this chapter, and as is developed throughout the book,
>> >> drove his daughters to fascists and pigs.
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 2:02 AM, Thomas Eckhardt
>> >> <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>> >>> Ernie on the internet in BE:
>> >>>
>> >>> "'As it kept growing, it never stopped carrying in his heart a
>> >>> bitter-cold
>> >>> death wish for the planet, and don't think anything has changed,
>> >>> kid.'"
>> >>>
>> >>> BE, 420
>> >>>
>> >>> John Kennedy on the search for peace:
>> >>>
>> >>> "We must, therefore, preserve in the search for peace in the hope that
>> >>> constructive changes within the Communist bloc might bring within
>> >>> reach
>> >>> solutions which now seem beyond us. We must conduct our affairs in
>> >>> such a
>> >>> way that it becomes in the Communists' interest to agree on a genuine
>> >>> peace.
>> >>> Above all, while defending our vital interest, nuclear powers must
>> >>> avert
>> >>> those confrontations which bring an adversary to a choice of either a
>> >>> humiliating retreat or a nuclear war. To adopt that kind of course in
>> >>> the
>> >>> nuclear age would be evidence only of the bankruptcy of our policy --
>> >>> or of
>> >>> a collective death-wish for the world."
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www1.american.edu/media/speeches/Kennedy.htm
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Kennedy also said:
>> >>>
>> >>> "In short, both the United States and its allies, and the Soviet Union
>> >>> and
>> >>> its allies, have a mutually deep interest in a just and genuine peace
>> >>> and in
>> >>> halting the arms race. Agreements to this end are in the interests of
>> >>> the
>> >>> Soviet Union as well as ours -- and even the most hostile nations can
>> >>> be
>> >>> relied upon to accept and keep those treaty obligations, and only
>> >>> those
>> >>> treaty obligations, which are in their own interest.
>> >>>
>> >>> So, let us not be blind to our differences -- but let us also direct
>> >>> attention to our common interests and to means by which those
>> >>> differences
>> >>> can be resolved. And if we cannot end now our differences, at least we
>> >>> can
>> >>> help make the world safe for diversity. For, in the final analysis,
>> >>> our most
>> >>> basic common link is that we all inhabit this planet. We all breathe
>> >>> the
>> >>> same air. We all cherish our children's future. And we are all
>> >>> mortal."
>> >>>
>> >>> Quite impressive.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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