NP: David Lynch Reading

[Johnny Marr]

The BFI in London have just started a full retrospective of Godard's work.
Last year they treated us to (among others) Rohmer, Welles, Tarkovsky and
Hou Hsiao-Hsien, all stunning.

One of the big American film institutions recently programmed a joint David
Lynch/Jacques Rivette season (I think curated by Dennis Lim) which must
have been extraordinary.

I'm a Bresson devotee, although I don't think all of his work is easy to
obtain. Dreyer as well, especially if you want to explore early cinema.

Best female directors for a career retrospective would probably be Akerman
(hugely difficult to obtain, ICA in London staged a career retrospective
over the course of two and a half years), Varda or Claire Denis.

On Sunday, January 3, 2016, Erik Burns <eburns at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd add John Sayles. And Alex Cox.
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> Subject: Re: NP: David Lynch Reading
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> To go with Allen, Whit Stillman?
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> I also loved Wim Wenders circa Paris, Texas. I've only seen Wong's
> Chungking Express (loved it) so unsure of his stinkers (unless that is one
> and I'm way off-base).
> On 3 Jan 2016 10:14, "Mark Kohut" <mark.kohut at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mark.kohut at gmail.com');>> wrote:
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>> How 'bout one great documentarian? Reality bites.
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>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 4:40 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mark.kohut at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> > Misc. Next volume of Callow's Welles is coming out this year.
>> >
>> > Women: consider Agnes Varda. And, yes, Jane Campion. Ida Lupino's
>> > couple--three films?
>> >
>> > So, Allen is your weak choice to contrast? Like having to have
>> > informed opinions about Hitchcock?
>> >
>> > No Godard? THE one I would commit to were I to commit.
>> > Along with Ray,  and/or Ozu. And Kurosawa . And, yes, Linklater. And
>> > Kiarostrami. And Lee.
>> >  All white guys and girls---
>> > talking about myself here---should see more Lee. imho.
>> >
>> > How about placing a guy like Ken Loach in context? How much art, how
>> > much cause and sociology?
>> > Remember AMERICA unfolds w studio genre creations, if America seen is
>> > a subgoal.(which it isn't, i just reread)
>> >
>> > No Truffaut? And I'd watch Chabrol over Melville. But that's me.
>> >
>> > In the circles, I have circled, I have needed my strong opinions about
>> > Hitchcock. Perhaps
>> > We all do.
>> > Your list is, of course, a high-minded one. Wilsonian ( per recent
>> > post). Kind I like
>> > But not most folk...but this is the plist.
>> >
>> > Watch some bad movies too. Just sayin'.
>> > Then there are the Royal Shakespeare Company productions of
>> > Shakespeare. (joke, sorta) which I may do.
>> >
>> > Do a book--blog first? Our Year of Watching Movies. (or Film, first
>> > discussion) New trend in books.
>> > and I'm not prescribing with anything above, just projecting my own
>> > self, mostly.
>> >
>> > Except I am saying if you are anywhere near NYC's Film Forum you MUST
>> > SEE Chimes at Midnight, one of the greatest
>> > movies ever made, in ownership dispute limbo for a long time and if it
>> > now plays elsewhere, just go.
>> > Still my fave Shakespeare film and Welles.
>> >
>> > And, more topically, see The Big Short and Spotlight while they are
>> > "in the conversation", as well as Lee.
>> >
>> > Back to reading I go. Up against movies, reading's through unless we
>> > keep it alive.
>> >
>> > my answer re Malick. No, he answers Christian apologetics in ways
>> > Heidegger did, whom he studied or wrote a
>> > diss on or whatever...
>> >
>> > Some of your directors offer a nice chance to explore the 'ideas' vs.
>> > 'life' in art question.
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>> > Sent from my iPadudio
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>> >> On Jan 2, 2016, at 10:33 PM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sundayjb at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Geez, Herzog will keep you busy. But Aguirre and Fitzcarraldo,
>> >> absolutely unforgettable.
>> >>
>> >> Will you be viewing each oeuvre chronologically?
>> >>
>> >> Women I can think of that might make it onto a similar list would be
>> >> Claire Denis, Kathryn Bigelow (big contrast across her career), Jane
>> >> Campion, Chantal Akerman (RIP).
>> >>
>> >>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dkholm at mac.com');>> wrote:
>> >>> What a great list!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> I forgot Herzog, though I don't like him all that much, but he is
>> >>> significant as a genre bender.
>> >>>
>> >>> Corns, of course.
>> >>>
>> >>> Mallick is interesting but more for his influence (Revenant) than his
>> >>> achievement ... Is he a Christian apologist? I can't tell, but it's an
>> >>> interesting discussion.
>> >>>
>> >>> I love Linklater ... Almost put him on the list, but didn't think of
>> him
>> >>> until after "send " .... Great subject for further research.
>> >>>
>> >>> I've been wanting to get into Barhrani since Ebert went out on a limb
>> for
>> >>> him after his first film a decade ago.
>> >>>
>> >>> Great list!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','steviekoteff at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks so much for all the input so far. Definitely going to buy the
>> Lynch
>> >>> on Lynch and will probably get the Lim book, too.
>> >>>
>> >>> We made the list on New Year's Eve, and it took several hours to do,
>> and was
>> >>> great fun. Lots of arguments, diplomatic choices, etc. Like our own
>> little
>> >>> climate talks.
>> >>>
>> >>> We ended up making choices that were some balance between directors
>> we were
>> >>> interested in seeing for ourselves, directors we wanted the other
>> person to
>> >>> see, and directors that felt uniquely important (or at least unique).
>> I
>> >>> consider myself almost shockingly overschooled in post-1980 American
>> cinema
>> >>> and really underschooled in pre-1980 American cinema plus most
>> non-American
>> >>> stuff. There's not quite as much stuff on there that will fill those
>> gaps as
>> >>> I'd like, which we are addressing in two ways:
>> >>>
>> >>> One is that we are acknowledging we will just have to leave a few
>> until
>> >>> 2017.
>> >>> Two is that we have an addendum list of directors with one or several
>> movies
>> >>> we consider important to see, but who we are not totally committing
>> to this
>> >>> year. E.g. The Seventh Seal is on the list, but Bergman's entire
>> ouevre is
>> >>> not (maybe in 2017).
>> >>>
>> >>> Here's the list of we ended up with:
>> >>> Lynch
>> >>> Kubrick
>> >>> Herzog
>> >>> Todd Solondz
>> >>> Coen Bros.
>> >>> John Waters
>> >>> Terrence Malick
>> >>> Linklater
>> >>> Ramin Bahrani
>> >>> Woody Allen
>> >>>
>> >>> Some of the choices are matters of convenience. Bahrani is young and
>> unique,
>> >>> worth seeing in his own right (as I insisted) but also only has a few
>> movies
>> >>> out, which counterbalances Allen/Herzog nicely.
>> >>>
>> >>> Longlist included, off the top of my head: Gilliam, Ray, Bergman,
>> Fellini,
>> >>> Welles, Spike Lee, Aronofsky, buncha others.
>> >>>
>> >>> Definitely lots of glaring omissions. It obviously skews contemporary,
>> >>> American, white. No women on the list, which is really kind of
>> unforgivable.
>> >>> We had Sofia Coppola and a few others on the long list. If anybody
>> has any
>> >>> recommendations to that end I'd be very interested.
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dkholm at mac.com');>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> All the Mississippi interview books and the Faber and Faber books
>> are a
>> >>>> good mix of biography and aesthetics.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Suggested directors for your project could include:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Fincher
>> >>>> Hitchcock
>> >>>> Sophia Coppola
>> >>>> Wes and PT Anderson
>> >>>> Tarantino (lots of books on him ... I did two of them)
>> >>>> Jill Sprecher
>> >>>> Ophuls
>> >>>> Nick Ray
>> >>>> Sam Fuller
>> >>>> Renoir
>> >>>> Truffaut
>> >>>> Melville
>> >>>> Kurosawa
>> >>>> Mizoguchi
>> >>>> Tarkovsky
>> >>>> Bergman
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dkholm at mac.com');>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> There's a new book by Dennis Lim, late of the Village Voice.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://www.amazon.com/David-Lynch-Another-Place-Icons/dp/0544343751
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>> >>>>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','steviekoteff at gmail.com');>>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> A month or two ago I asked if anybody could recommend a Kubrick
>> bio and
>> >>>>>> you guys were all helpful (went with the Lobrutto, Mark T's rec).
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I'm no wondering if anybody has a particular book (or books) on
>> Lynch
>> >>>>>> to recommend. Biography is desired. If the writer is insightful
>> about
>> >>>>>> Lynch's work that'd be a plus but I guess I'm a bit more
>> interested in Lynch
>> >>>>>> the guy, as person and artist. Want insight into what made the guy
>> make the
>> >>>>>> work.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> My girlfriend and I made a list of ten directors whose work we
>> want to
>> >>>>>> see all of, in order, before 2017. We're starting with Lynch.
>> Ideally I'd
>> >>>>>> like to read up on each director while we are watching his/her
>> stuff so I
>> >>>>>> will be checking back in.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance. -
>> >>>>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>> >>>>> -
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