NP: David Lynch Reading

Sun Jan 3 08:55:56 CST 2016

Yeah, I meant Rohmer when I wrote Chabrol which shows how much I could
learn by doing this.

Enuff,
Cheers

On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com> wrote:
> The BFI in London have just started a full retrospective of Godard's work.
> Last year they treated us to (among others) Rohmer, Welles, Tarkovsky and
> Hou Hsiao-Hsien, all stunning.
>
> One of the big American film institutions recently programmed a joint David
> Lynch/Jacques Rivette season (I think curated by Dennis Lim) which must have
> been extraordinary.
>
> I'm a Bresson devotee, although I don't think all of his work is easy to
> obtain. Dreyer as well, especially if you want to explore early cinema.
>
> Best female directors for a career retrospective would probably be Akerman
> (hugely difficult to obtain, ICA in London staged a career retrospective
> over the course of two and a half years), Varda or Claire Denis.
>
>
> On Sunday, January 3, 2016, Erik Burns <eburns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'd add John Sayles. And Alex Cox.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jemmy Bloocher
>> Sent: ‎1/‎3/‎2016 10:36
>> To: Mark Kohut
>> Cc: Steven Koteff; John Bailey; P-list; Douglas Holm
>> Subject: Re: NP: David Lynch Reading
>>
>> To go with Allen, Whit Stillman?
>>
>> I also loved Wim Wenders circa Paris, Texas. I've only seen Wong's
>> Chungking Express (loved it) so unsure of his stinkers (unless that is one
>> and I'm way off-base).
>>
>> On 3 Jan 2016 10:14, "Mark Kohut" <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> How 'bout one great documentarian? Reality bites.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 4:40 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Misc. Next volume of Callow's Welles is coming out this year.
>>> >
>>> > Women: consider Agnes Varda. And, yes, Jane Campion. Ida Lupino's
>>> > couple--three films?
>>> >
>>> > So, Allen is your weak choice to contrast? Like having to have
>>> > informed opinions about Hitchcock?
>>> >
>>> > No Godard? THE one I would commit to were I to commit.
>>> > Along with Ray,  and/or Ozu. And Kurosawa . And, yes, Linklater. And
>>> > Kiarostrami. And Lee.
>>> >  All white guys and girls---
>>> > talking about myself here---should see more Lee. imho.
>>> >
>>> > How about placing a guy like Ken Loach in context? How much art, how
>>> > much cause and sociology?
>>> > Remember AMERICA unfolds w studio genre creations, if America seen is
>>> > a subgoal.(which it isn't, i just reread)
>>> >
>>> > No Truffaut? And I'd watch Chabrol over Melville. But that's me.
>>> >
>>> > In the circles, I have circled, I have needed my strong opinions about
>>> > Hitchcock. Perhaps
>>> > We all do.
>>> > Your list is, of course, a high-minded one. Wilsonian ( per recent
>>> > post). Kind I like
>>> > But not most folk...but this is the plist.
>>> >
>>> > Watch some bad movies too. Just sayin'.
>>> > Then there are the Royal Shakespeare Company productions of
>>> > Shakespeare. (joke, sorta) which I may do.
>>> >
>>> > Do a book--blog first? Our Year of Watching Movies. (or Film, first
>>> > discussion) New trend in books.
>>> > and I'm not prescribing with anything above, just projecting my own
>>> > self, mostly.
>>> >
>>> > Except I am saying if you are anywhere near NYC's Film Forum you MUST
>>> > SEE Chimes at Midnight, one of the greatest
>>> > movies ever made, in ownership dispute limbo for a long time and if it
>>> > now plays elsewhere, just go.
>>> > Still my fave Shakespeare film and Welles.
>>> >
>>> > And, more topically, see The Big Short and Spotlight while they are
>>> > "in the conversation", as well as Lee.
>>> >
>>> > Back to reading I go. Up against movies, reading's through unless we
>>> > keep it alive.
>>> >
>>> > my answer re Malick. No, he answers Christian apologetics in ways
>>> > Heidegger did, whom he studied or wrote a
>>> > diss on or whatever...
>>> >
>>> > Some of your directors offer a nice chance to explore the 'ideas' vs.
>>> > 'life' in art question.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPadudio
>>> >
>>> >> On Jan 2, 2016, at 10:33 PM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Geez, Herzog will keep you busy. But Aguirre and Fitzcarraldo,
>>> >> absolutely unforgettable.
>>> >>
>>> >> Will you be viewing each oeuvre chronologically?
>>> >>
>>> >> Women I can think of that might make it onto a similar list would be
>>> >> Claire Denis, Kathryn Bigelow (big contrast across her career), Jane
>>> >> Campion, Chantal Akerman (RIP).
>>> >>
>>> >>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:
>>> >>> What a great list!!!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I forgot Herzog, though I don't like him all that much, but he is
>>> >>> significant as a genre bender.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Corns, of course.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Mallick is interesting but more for his influence (Revenant) than his
>>> >>> achievement ... Is he a Christian apologist? I can't tell, but it's
>>> >>> an
>>> >>> interesting discussion.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I love Linklater ... Almost put him on the list, but didn't think of
>>> >>> him
>>> >>> until after "send " .... Great subject for further research.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I've been wanting to get into Barhrani since Ebert went out on a limb
>>> >>> for
>>> >>> him after his first film a decade ago.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Great list!!!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks so much for all the input so far. Definitely going to buy the
>>> >>> Lynch
>>> >>> on Lynch and will probably get the Lim book, too.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We made the list on New Year's Eve, and it took several hours to do,
>>> >>> and was
>>> >>> great fun. Lots of arguments, diplomatic choices, etc. Like our own
>>> >>> little
>>> >>> climate talks.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We ended up making choices that were some balance between directors
>>> >>> we were
>>> >>> interested in seeing for ourselves, directors we wanted the other
>>> >>> person to
>>> >>> see, and directors that felt uniquely important (or at least unique).
>>> >>> I
>>> >>> consider myself almost shockingly overschooled in post-1980 American
>>> >>> cinema
>>> >>> and really underschooled in pre-1980 American cinema plus most
>>> >>> non-American
>>> >>> stuff. There's not quite as much stuff on there that will fill those
>>> >>> gaps as
>>> >>> I'd like, which we are addressing in two ways:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> One is that we are acknowledging we will just have to leave a few
>>> >>> until
>>> >>> 2017.
>>> >>> Two is that we have an addendum list of directors with one or several
>>> >>> movies
>>> >>> we consider important to see, but who we are not totally committing
>>> >>> to this
>>> >>> year. E.g. The Seventh Seal is on the list, but Bergman's entire
>>> >>> ouevre is
>>> >>> not (maybe in 2017).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Here's the list of we ended up with:
>>> >>> Lynch
>>> >>> Kubrick
>>> >>> Herzog
>>> >>> Todd Solondz
>>> >>> Coen Bros.
>>> >>> John Waters
>>> >>> Terrence Malick
>>> >>> Linklater
>>> >>> Ramin Bahrani
>>> >>> Woody Allen
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Some of the choices are matters of convenience. Bahrani is young and
>>> >>> unique,
>>> >>> worth seeing in his own right (as I insisted) but also only has a few
>>> >>> movies
>>> >>> out, which counterbalances Allen/Herzog nicely.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Longlist included, off the top of my head: Gilliam, Ray, Bergman,
>>> >>> Fellini,
>>> >>> Welles, Spike Lee, Aronofsky, buncha others.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Definitely lots of glaring omissions. It obviously skews
>>> >>> contemporary,
>>> >>> American, white. No women on the list, which is really kind of
>>> >>> unforgivable.
>>> >>> We had Sofia Coppola and a few others on the long list. If anybody
>>> >>> has any
>>> >>> recommendations to that end I'd be very interested.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> All the Mississippi interview books and the Faber and Faber books
>>> >>>> are a
>>> >>>> good mix of biography and aesthetics.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Suggested directors for your project could include:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Fincher
>>> >>>> Hitchcock
>>> >>>> Sophia Coppola
>>> >>>> Wes and PT Anderson
>>> >>>> Tarantino (lots of books on him ... I did two of them)
>>> >>>> Jill Sprecher
>>> >>>> Ophuls
>>> >>>> Nick Ray
>>> >>>> Sam Fuller
>>> >>>> Renoir
>>> >>>> Truffaut
>>> >>>> Melville
>>> >>>> Kurosawa
>>> >>>> Mizoguchi
>>> >>>> Tarkovsky
>>> >>>> Bergman
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> There's a new book by Dennis Lim, late of the Village Voice.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> http://www.amazon.com/David-Lynch-Another-Place-Icons/dp/0544343751
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com>
>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> A month or two ago I asked if anybody could recommend a Kubrick
>>> >>>>>> bio and
>>> >>>>>> you guys were all helpful (went with the Lobrutto, Mark T's rec).
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I'm no wondering if anybody has a particular book (or books) on
>>> >>>>>> Lynch
>>> >>>>>> to recommend. Biography is desired. If the writer is insightful
>>> >>>>>> about
>>> >>>>>> Lynch's work that'd be a plus but I guess I'm a bit more
>>> >>>>>> interested in Lynch
>>> >>>>>> the guy, as person and artist. Want insight into what made the guy
>>> >>>>>> make the
>>> >>>>>> work.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> My girlfriend and I made a list of ten directors whose work we
>>> >>>>>> want to
>>> >>>>>> see all of, in order, before 2017. We're starting with Lynch.
>>> >>>>>> Ideally I'd
>>> >>>>>> like to read up on each director while we are watching his/her
>>> >>>>>> stuff so I
>>> >>>>>> will be checking back in.
>>> >>>>>>
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