NP: David Lynch Reading

Sun Jan 3 09:20:41 CST 2016

How about Ozu for a less Western style of film making (although some of his
early 1930s films, before he found his definite style, are heavily indebted
to America)? Also a great way to remember Setsuo Hara - those films can be
an acquired taste, but you'll instantly recognise the artistic calibre and
once you gain a feel for Ozu you'll never look back.

For African cinema, I'd recommend Sissasoko, with Timbuktu a recent career
high point.

On Sunday, January 3, 2016, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Not Enuff yet.
> Sukorov, I'd watch every Sukorov twice.
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > Yeah, I meant Rohmer when I wrote Chabrol which shows how much I could
> > learn by doing this.
> >
> > Enuff,
> > Cheers
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> The BFI in London have just started a full retrospective of Godard's
> work.
> >> Last year they treated us to (among others) Rohmer, Welles, Tarkovsky
> and
> >> Hou Hsiao-Hsien, all stunning.
> >>
> >> One of the big American film institutions recently programmed a joint
> David
> >> Lynch/Jacques Rivette season (I think curated by Dennis Lim) which must
> have
> >> been extraordinary.
> >>
> >> I'm a Bresson devotee, although I don't think all of his work is easy to
> >> obtain. Dreyer as well, especially if you want to explore early cinema.
> >>
> >> Best female directors for a career retrospective would probably be
> Akerman
> >> (hugely difficult to obtain, ICA in London staged a career retrospective
> >> over the course of two and a half years), Varda or Claire Denis.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sunday, January 3, 2016, Erik Burns <eburns at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'd add John Sayles. And Alex Cox.
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Jemmy Bloocher
> >>> Sent: ‎1/‎3/‎2016 10:36
> >>> To: Mark Kohut
> >>> Cc: Steven Koteff; John Bailey; P-list; Douglas Holm
> >>> Subject: Re: NP: David Lynch Reading
> >>>
> >>> To go with Allen, Whit Stillman?
> >>>
> >>> I also loved Wim Wenders circa Paris, Texas. I've only seen Wong's
> >>> Chungking Express (loved it) so unsure of his stinkers (unless that is
> one
> >>> and I'm way off-base).
> >>>
> >>> On 3 Jan 2016 10:14, "Mark Kohut" <mark.kohut at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> How 'bout one great documentarian? Reality bites.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 4:40 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>> > Misc. Next volume of Callow's Welles is coming out this year.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Women: consider Agnes Varda. And, yes, Jane Campion. Ida Lupino's
> >>>> > couple--three films?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > So, Allen is your weak choice to contrast? Like having to have
> >>>> > informed opinions about Hitchcock?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > No Godard? THE one I would commit to were I to commit.
> >>>> > Along with Ray,  and/or Ozu. And Kurosawa . And, yes, Linklater. And
> >>>> > Kiarostrami. And Lee.
> >>>> >  All white guys and girls---
> >>>> > talking about myself here---should see more Lee. imho.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > How about placing a guy like Ken Loach in context? How much art, how
> >>>> > much cause and sociology?
> >>>> > Remember AMERICA unfolds w studio genre creations, if America seen
> is
> >>>> > a subgoal.(which it isn't, i just reread)
> >>>> >
> >>>> > No Truffaut? And I'd watch Chabrol over Melville. But that's me.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > In the circles, I have circled, I have needed my strong opinions
> about
> >>>> > Hitchcock. Perhaps
> >>>> > We all do.
> >>>> > Your list is, of course, a high-minded one. Wilsonian ( per recent
> >>>> > post). Kind I like
> >>>> > But not most folk...but this is the plist.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Watch some bad movies too. Just sayin'.
> >>>> > Then there are the Royal Shakespeare Company productions of
> >>>> > Shakespeare. (joke, sorta) which I may do.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Do a book--blog first? Our Year of Watching Movies. (or Film, first
> >>>> > discussion) New trend in books.
> >>>> > and I'm not prescribing with anything above, just projecting my own
> >>>> > self, mostly.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Except I am saying if you are anywhere near NYC's Film Forum you
> MUST
> >>>> > SEE Chimes at Midnight, one of the greatest
> >>>> > movies ever made, in ownership dispute limbo for a long time and if
> it
> >>>> > now plays elsewhere, just go.
> >>>> > Still my fave Shakespeare film and Welles.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > And, more topically, see The Big Short and Spotlight while they are
> >>>> > "in the conversation", as well as Lee.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Back to reading I go. Up against movies, reading's through unless we
> >>>> > keep it alive.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > my answer re Malick. No, he answers Christian apologetics in ways
> >>>> > Heidegger did, whom he studied or wrote a
> >>>> > diss on or whatever...
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Some of your directors offer a nice chance to explore the 'ideas'
> vs.
> >>>> > 'life' in art question.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Sent from my iPadudio
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> On Jan 2, 2016, at 10:33 PM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Geez, Herzog will keep you busy. But Aguirre and Fitzcarraldo,
> >>>> >> absolutely unforgettable.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Will you be viewing each oeuvre chronologically?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Women I can think of that might make it onto a similar list would
> be
> >>>> >> Claire Denis, Kathryn Bigelow (big contrast across her career),
> Jane
> >>>> >> Campion, Chantal Akerman (RIP).
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>> >>> What a great list!!!
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> I forgot Herzog, though I don't like him all that much, but he is
> >>>> >>> significant as a genre bender.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Corns, of course.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Mallick is interesting but more for his influence (Revenant) than
> his
> >>>> >>> achievement ... Is he a Christian apologist? I can't tell, but
> it's
> >>>> >>> an
> >>>> >>> interesting discussion.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> I love Linklater ... Almost put him on the list, but didn't think
> of
> >>>> >>> him
> >>>> >>> until after "send " .... Great subject for further research.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> I've been wanting to get into Barhrani since Ebert went out on a
> limb
> >>>> >>> for
> >>>> >>> him after his first film a decade ago.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Great list!!!
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> >>>> >>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Thanks so much for all the input so far. Definitely going to buy
> the
> >>>> >>> Lynch
> >>>> >>> on Lynch and will probably get the Lim book, too.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> We made the list on New Year's Eve, and it took several hours to
> do,
> >>>> >>> and was
> >>>> >>> great fun. Lots of arguments, diplomatic choices, etc. Like our
> own
> >>>> >>> little
> >>>> >>> climate talks.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> We ended up making choices that were some balance between
> directors
> >>>> >>> we were
> >>>> >>> interested in seeing for ourselves, directors we wanted the other
> >>>> >>> person to
> >>>> >>> see, and directors that felt uniquely important (or at least
> unique).
> >>>> >>> I
> >>>> >>> consider myself almost shockingly overschooled in post-1980
> American
> >>>> >>> cinema
> >>>> >>> and really underschooled in pre-1980 American cinema plus most
> >>>> >>> non-American
> >>>> >>> stuff. There's not quite as much stuff on there that will fill
> those
> >>>> >>> gaps as
> >>>> >>> I'd like, which we are addressing in two ways:
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> One is that we are acknowledging we will just have to leave a few
> >>>> >>> until
> >>>> >>> 2017.
> >>>> >>> Two is that we have an addendum list of directors with one or
> several
> >>>> >>> movies
> >>>> >>> we consider important to see, but who we are not totally
> committing
> >>>> >>> to this
> >>>> >>> year. E.g. The Seventh Seal is on the list, but Bergman's entire
> >>>> >>> ouevre is
> >>>> >>> not (maybe in 2017).
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Here's the list of we ended up with:
> >>>> >>> Lynch
> >>>> >>> Kubrick
> >>>> >>> Herzog
> >>>> >>> Todd Solondz
> >>>> >>> Coen Bros.
> >>>> >>> John Waters
> >>>> >>> Terrence Malick
> >>>> >>> Linklater
> >>>> >>> Ramin Bahrani
> >>>> >>> Woody Allen
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Some of the choices are matters of convenience. Bahrani is young
> and
> >>>> >>> unique,
> >>>> >>> worth seeing in his own right (as I insisted) but also only has a
> few
> >>>> >>> movies
> >>>> >>> out, which counterbalances Allen/Herzog nicely.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Longlist included, off the top of my head: Gilliam, Ray, Bergman,
> >>>> >>> Fellini,
> >>>> >>> Welles, Spike Lee, Aronofsky, buncha others.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Definitely lots of glaring omissions. It obviously skews
> >>>> >>> contemporary,
> >>>> >>> American, white. No women on the list, which is really kind of
> >>>> >>> unforgivable.
> >>>> >>> We had Sofia Coppola and a few others on the long list. If anybody
> >>>> >>> has any
> >>>> >>> recommendations to that end I'd be very interested.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> All the Mississippi interview books and the Faber and Faber books
> >>>> >>>> are a
> >>>> >>>> good mix of biography and aesthetics.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> Suggested directors for your project could include:
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> Fincher
> >>>> >>>> Hitchcock
> >>>> >>>> Sophia Coppola
> >>>> >>>> Wes and PT Anderson
> >>>> >>>> Tarantino (lots of books on him ... I did two of them)
> >>>> >>>> Jill Sprecher
> >>>> >>>> Ophuls
> >>>> >>>> Nick Ray
> >>>> >>>> Sam Fuller
> >>>> >>>> Renoir
> >>>> >>>> Truffaut
> >>>> >>>> Melville
> >>>> >>>> Kurosawa
> >>>> >>>> Mizoguchi
> >>>> >>>> Tarkovsky
> >>>> >>>> Bergman
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> There's a new book by Dennis Lim, late of the Village Voice.
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> http://www.amazon.com/David-Lynch-Another-Place-Icons/dp/0544343751
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Steven Koteff <
> steviekoteff at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> >>>> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> A month or two ago I asked if anybody could recommend a Kubrick
> >>>> >>>>>> bio and
> >>>> >>>>>> you guys were all helpful (went with the Lobrutto, Mark T's
> rec).
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> I'm no wondering if anybody has a particular book (or books) on
> >>>> >>>>>> Lynch
> >>>> >>>>>> to recommend. Biography is desired. If the writer is insightful
> >>>> >>>>>> about
> >>>> >>>>>> Lynch's work that'd be a plus but I guess I'm a bit more
> >>>> >>>>>> interested in Lynch
> >>>> >>>>>> the guy, as person and artist. Want insight into what made the
> guy
> >>>> >>>>>> make the
> >>>> >>>>>> work.
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> My girlfriend and I made a list of ten directors whose work we
> >>>> >>>>>> want to
> >>>> >>>>>> see all of, in order, before 2017. We're starting with Lynch.
> >>>> >>>>>> Ideally I'd
> >>>> >>>>>> like to read up on each director while we are watching his/her
> >>>> >>>>>> stuff so I
> >>>> >>>>>> will be checking back in.
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance. -
> >>>> >>>>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
> >>>> >>>>> -
> >>>> >>>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
> >>>> >> -
> >>>> >> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
> >>>> -
> >>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
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