NP: David Lynch Reading

[Mark Kohut]

Not Enuff yet.
Sukorov, I'd watch every Sukorov twice.

On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I meant Rohmer when I wrote Chabrol which shows how much I could
> learn by doing this.
>
> Enuff,
> Cheers
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The BFI in London have just started a full retrospective of Godard's work.
>> Last year they treated us to (among others) Rohmer, Welles, Tarkovsky and
>> Hou Hsiao-Hsien, all stunning.
>>
>> One of the big American film institutions recently programmed a joint David
>> Lynch/Jacques Rivette season (I think curated by Dennis Lim) which must have
>> been extraordinary.
>>
>> I'm a Bresson devotee, although I don't think all of his work is easy to
>> obtain. Dreyer as well, especially if you want to explore early cinema.
>>
>> Best female directors for a career retrospective would probably be Akerman
>> (hugely difficult to obtain, ICA in London staged a career retrospective
>> over the course of two and a half years), Varda or Claire Denis.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 3, 2016, Erik Burns <eburns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd add John Sayles. And Alex Cox.
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Jemmy Bloocher
>>> Sent: ‎1/‎3/‎2016 10:36
>>> To: Mark Kohut
>>> Cc: Steven Koteff; John Bailey; P-list; Douglas Holm
>>> Subject: Re: NP: David Lynch Reading
>>>
>>> To go with Allen, Whit Stillman?
>>>
>>> I also loved Wim Wenders circa Paris, Texas. I've only seen Wong's
>>> Chungking Express (loved it) so unsure of his stinkers (unless that is one
>>> and I'm way off-base).
>>>
>>> On 3 Jan 2016 10:14, "Mark Kohut" <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How 'bout one great documentarian? Reality bites.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 4:40 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Misc. Next volume of Callow's Welles is coming out this year.
>>>> >
>>>> > Women: consider Agnes Varda. And, yes, Jane Campion. Ida Lupino's
>>>> > couple--three films?
>>>> >
>>>> > So, Allen is your weak choice to contrast? Like having to have
>>>> > informed opinions about Hitchcock?
>>>> >
>>>> > No Godard? THE one I would commit to were I to commit.
>>>> > Along with Ray,  and/or Ozu. And Kurosawa . And, yes, Linklater. And
>>>> > Kiarostrami. And Lee.
>>>> >  All white guys and girls---
>>>> > talking about myself here---should see more Lee. imho.
>>>> >
>>>> > How about placing a guy like Ken Loach in context? How much art, how
>>>> > much cause and sociology?
>>>> > Remember AMERICA unfolds w studio genre creations, if America seen is
>>>> > a subgoal.(which it isn't, i just reread)
>>>> >
>>>> > No Truffaut? And I'd watch Chabrol over Melville. But that's me.
>>>> >
>>>> > In the circles, I have circled, I have needed my strong opinions about
>>>> > Hitchcock. Perhaps
>>>> > We all do.
>>>> > Your list is, of course, a high-minded one. Wilsonian ( per recent
>>>> > post). Kind I like
>>>> > But not most folk...but this is the plist.
>>>> >
>>>> > Watch some bad movies too. Just sayin'.
>>>> > Then there are the Royal Shakespeare Company productions of
>>>> > Shakespeare. (joke, sorta) which I may do.
>>>> >
>>>> > Do a book--blog first? Our Year of Watching Movies. (or Film, first
>>>> > discussion) New trend in books.
>>>> > and I'm not prescribing with anything above, just projecting my own
>>>> > self, mostly.
>>>> >
>>>> > Except I am saying if you are anywhere near NYC's Film Forum you MUST
>>>> > SEE Chimes at Midnight, one of the greatest
>>>> > movies ever made, in ownership dispute limbo for a long time and if it
>>>> > now plays elsewhere, just go.
>>>> > Still my fave Shakespeare film and Welles.
>>>> >
>>>> > And, more topically, see The Big Short and Spotlight while they are
>>>> > "in the conversation", as well as Lee.
>>>> >
>>>> > Back to reading I go. Up against movies, reading's through unless we
>>>> > keep it alive.
>>>> >
>>>> > my answer re Malick. No, he answers Christian apologetics in ways
>>>> > Heidegger did, whom he studied or wrote a
>>>> > diss on or whatever...
>>>> >
>>>> > Some of your directors offer a nice chance to explore the 'ideas' vs.
>>>> > 'life' in art question.
>>>> >
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>>>> >
>>>> > Sent from my iPadudio
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Jan 2, 2016, at 10:33 PM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Geez, Herzog will keep you busy. But Aguirre and Fitzcarraldo,
>>>> >> absolutely unforgettable.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Will you be viewing each oeuvre chronologically?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Women I can think of that might make it onto a similar list would be
>>>> >> Claire Denis, Kathryn Bigelow (big contrast across her career), Jane
>>>> >> Campion, Chantal Akerman (RIP).
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> What a great list!!!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I forgot Herzog, though I don't like him all that much, but he is
>>>> >>> significant as a genre bender.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Corns, of course.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Mallick is interesting but more for his influence (Revenant) than his
>>>> >>> achievement ... Is he a Christian apologist? I can't tell, but it's
>>>> >>> an
>>>> >>> interesting discussion.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I love Linklater ... Almost put him on the list, but didn't think of
>>>> >>> him
>>>> >>> until after "send " .... Great subject for further research.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I've been wanting to get into Barhrani since Ebert went out on a limb
>>>> >>> for
>>>> >>> him after his first film a decade ago.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Great list!!!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Thanks so much for all the input so far. Definitely going to buy the
>>>> >>> Lynch
>>>> >>> on Lynch and will probably get the Lim book, too.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> We made the list on New Year's Eve, and it took several hours to do,
>>>> >>> and was
>>>> >>> great fun. Lots of arguments, diplomatic choices, etc. Like our own
>>>> >>> little
>>>> >>> climate talks.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> We ended up making choices that were some balance between directors
>>>> >>> we were
>>>> >>> interested in seeing for ourselves, directors we wanted the other
>>>> >>> person to
>>>> >>> see, and directors that felt uniquely important (or at least unique).
>>>> >>> I
>>>> >>> consider myself almost shockingly overschooled in post-1980 American
>>>> >>> cinema
>>>> >>> and really underschooled in pre-1980 American cinema plus most
>>>> >>> non-American
>>>> >>> stuff. There's not quite as much stuff on there that will fill those
>>>> >>> gaps as
>>>> >>> I'd like, which we are addressing in two ways:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> One is that we are acknowledging we will just have to leave a few
>>>> >>> until
>>>> >>> 2017.
>>>> >>> Two is that we have an addendum list of directors with one or several
>>>> >>> movies
>>>> >>> we consider important to see, but who we are not totally committing
>>>> >>> to this
>>>> >>> year. E.g. The Seventh Seal is on the list, but Bergman's entire
>>>> >>> ouevre is
>>>> >>> not (maybe in 2017).
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Here's the list of we ended up with:
>>>> >>> Lynch
>>>> >>> Kubrick
>>>> >>> Herzog
>>>> >>> Todd Solondz
>>>> >>> Coen Bros.
>>>> >>> John Waters
>>>> >>> Terrence Malick
>>>> >>> Linklater
>>>> >>> Ramin Bahrani
>>>> >>> Woody Allen
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Some of the choices are matters of convenience. Bahrani is young and
>>>> >>> unique,
>>>> >>> worth seeing in his own right (as I insisted) but also only has a few
>>>> >>> movies
>>>> >>> out, which counterbalances Allen/Herzog nicely.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Longlist included, off the top of my head: Gilliam, Ray, Bergman,
>>>> >>> Fellini,
>>>> >>> Welles, Spike Lee, Aronofsky, buncha others.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Definitely lots of glaring omissions. It obviously skews
>>>> >>> contemporary,
>>>> >>> American, white. No women on the list, which is really kind of
>>>> >>> unforgivable.
>>>> >>> We had Sofia Coppola and a few others on the long list. If anybody
>>>> >>> has any
>>>> >>> recommendations to that end I'd be very interested.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> All the Mississippi interview books and the Faber and Faber books
>>>> >>>> are a
>>>> >>>> good mix of biography and aesthetics.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Suggested directors for your project could include:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Fincher
>>>> >>>> Hitchcock
>>>> >>>> Sophia Coppola
>>>> >>>> Wes and PT Anderson
>>>> >>>> Tarantino (lots of books on him ... I did two of them)
>>>> >>>> Jill Sprecher
>>>> >>>> Ophuls
>>>> >>>> Nick Ray
>>>> >>>> Sam Fuller
>>>> >>>> Renoir
>>>> >>>> Truffaut
>>>> >>>> Melville
>>>> >>>> Kurosawa
>>>> >>>> Mizoguchi
>>>> >>>> Tarkovsky
>>>> >>>> Bergman
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> There's a new book by Dennis Lim, late of the Village Voice.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> http://www.amazon.com/David-Lynch-Another-Place-Icons/dp/0544343751
>>>> >>>>>
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>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> A month or two ago I asked if anybody could recommend a Kubrick
>>>> >>>>>> bio and
>>>> >>>>>> you guys were all helpful (went with the Lobrutto, Mark T's rec).
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> I'm no wondering if anybody has a particular book (or books) on
>>>> >>>>>> Lynch
>>>> >>>>>> to recommend. Biography is desired. If the writer is insightful
>>>> >>>>>> about
>>>> >>>>>> Lynch's work that'd be a plus but I guess I'm a bit more
>>>> >>>>>> interested in Lynch
>>>> >>>>>> the guy, as person and artist. Want insight into what made the guy
>>>> >>>>>> make the
>>>> >>>>>> work.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> My girlfriend and I made a list of ten directors whose work we
>>>> >>>>>> want to
>>>> >>>>>> see all of, in order, before 2017. We're starting with Lynch.
>>>> >>>>>> Ideally I'd
>>>> >>>>>> like to read up on each director while we are watching his/her
>>>> >>>>>> stuff so I
>>>> >>>>>> will be checking back in.
>>>> >>>>>>
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