NP: David Lynch Reading

Sun Jan 3 13:02:45 CST 2016

Ray has five movies on the secondary list. The list of movies to see whose directors are not included on the list of the original ten people. Not having seen any of his stuff, I think the biggest possible leap for me will be going from having seen zero Ray movies to having seen one (so then maybe he and his whole oeuvre go on the 2017 list). Whereas with somebody like Allen, who has made probably a dozen movies I've seen and three dozen I haven't, getting a sense of the arc is more beneficial. Or a bigger leap from where I currently stand. Does that make sense? Plus Allen is useful on the list in relation to the other directors. For variety, digestability, etc. 

> On Jan 3, 2016, at 3:14 AM, Jemmy Bloocher <jbloocher at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Satyajit Ray? I'm pondering female directors, but Ray immediately popped into my head.
> 
>> On 3 Jan 2016 05:42, "rich" <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> have u seen the Curious George/Herzog spoof? priceless
>> 
>> women directors: Lina Wertmuller's gotta be on that list
>> 
>> rich
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 10:33 PM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Geez, Herzog will keep you busy. But Aguirre and Fitzcarraldo,
>>> absolutely unforgettable.
>>> 
>>> Will you be viewing each oeuvre chronologically?
>>> 
>>> Women I can think of that might make it onto a similar list would be
>>> Claire Denis, Kathryn Bigelow (big contrast across her career), Jane
>>> Campion, Chantal Akerman (RIP).
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:
>>> > What a great list!!!
>>> >
>>> > I forgot Herzog, though I don't like him all that much, but he is
>>> > significant as a genre bender.
>>> >
>>> > Corns, of course.
>>> >
>>> > Mallick is interesting but more for his influence (Revenant) than his
>>> > achievement ... Is he a Christian apologist? I can't tell, but it's an
>>> > interesting discussion.
>>> >
>>> > I love Linklater ... Almost put him on the list, but didn't think of him
>>> > until after "send " .... Great subject for further research.
>>> >
>>> > I've been wanting to get into Barhrani since Ebert went out on a limb for
>>> > him after his first film a decade ago.
>>> >
>>> > Great list!!!
>>> >
>>> > On Jan 2, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Thanks so much for all the input so far. Definitely going to buy the Lynch
>>> > on Lynch and will probably get the Lim book, too.
>>> >
>>> > We made the list on New Year's Eve, and it took several hours to do, and was
>>> > great fun. Lots of arguments, diplomatic choices, etc. Like our own little
>>> > climate talks.
>>> >
>>> > We ended up making choices that were some balance between directors we were
>>> > interested in seeing for ourselves, directors we wanted the other person to
>>> > see, and directors that felt uniquely important (or at least unique). I
>>> > consider myself almost shockingly overschooled in post-1980 American cinema
>>> > and really underschooled in pre-1980 American cinema plus most non-American
>>> > stuff. There's not quite as much stuff on there that will fill those gaps as
>>> > I'd like, which we are addressing in two ways:
>>> >
>>> > One is that we are acknowledging we will just have to leave a few until
>>> > 2017.
>>> > Two is that we have an addendum list of directors with one or several movies
>>> > we consider important to see, but who we are not totally committing to this
>>> > year. E.g. The Seventh Seal is on the list, but Bergman's entire ouevre is
>>> > not (maybe in 2017).
>>> >
>>> > Here's the list of we ended up with:
>>> > Lynch
>>> > Kubrick
>>> > Herzog
>>> > Todd Solondz
>>> > Coen Bros.
>>> > John Waters
>>> > Terrence Malick
>>> > Linklater
>>> > Ramin Bahrani
>>> > Woody Allen
>>> >
>>> > Some of the choices are matters of convenience. Bahrani is young and unique,
>>> > worth seeing in his own right (as I insisted) but also only has a few movies
>>> > out, which counterbalances Allen/Herzog nicely.
>>> >
>>> > Longlist included, off the top of my head: Gilliam, Ray, Bergman, Fellini,
>>> > Welles, Spike Lee, Aronofsky, buncha others.
>>> >
>>> > Definitely lots of glaring omissions. It obviously skews contemporary,
>>> > American, white. No women on the list, which is really kind of unforgivable.
>>> > We had Sofia Coppola and a few others on the long list. If anybody has any
>>> > recommendations to that end I'd be very interested.
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> All the Mississippi interview books and the Faber and Faber books are a
>>> >> good mix of biography and aesthetics.
>>> >>
>>> >> Suggested directors for your project could include:
>>> >>
>>> >> Fincher
>>> >> Hitchcock
>>> >> Sophia Coppola
>>> >> Wes and PT Anderson
>>> >> Tarantino (lots of books on him ... I did two of them)
>>> >> Jill Sprecher
>>> >> Ophuls
>>> >> Nick Ray
>>> >> Sam Fuller
>>> >> Renoir
>>> >> Truffaut
>>> >> Melville
>>> >> Kurosawa
>>> >> Mizoguchi
>>> >> Tarkovsky
>>> >> Bergman
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > On Jan 2, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > There's a new book by Dennis Lim, late of the Village Voice.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > http://www.amazon.com/David-Lynch-Another-Place-Icons/dp/0544343751
>>> >> >
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>>> >> >
>>> >> >> On Jan 2, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> A month or two ago I asked if anybody could recommend a Kubrick bio and
>>> >> >> you guys were all helpful (went with the Lobrutto, Mark T's rec).
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I'm no wondering if anybody has a particular book (or books) on Lynch
>>> >> >> to recommend. Biography is desired. If the writer is insightful about
>>> >> >> Lynch's work that'd be a plus but I guess I'm a bit more interested in Lynch
>>> >> >> the guy, as person and artist. Want insight into what made the guy make the
>>> >> >> work.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> My girlfriend and I made a list of ten directors whose work we want to
>>> >> >> see all of, in order, before 2017. We're starting with Lynch. Ideally I'd
>>> >> >> like to read up on each director while we are watching his/her stuff so I
>>> >> >> will be checking back in.
>>> >> >>
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