NP: David Lynch Reading

Sun Jan 3 13:03:48 CST 2016

Hotshot auteurs whose careers took strange paths: David Gordon Green is like that. 

> On Jan 3, 2016, at 3:22 AM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On a related/opposite note, I've recently been thinking about
> directors who were once considered hotshot auteurs but whose later
> output had people reconsidering their original talent. I know some
> people put Malick in that camp but I've never really followed his
> stuff, but in my case I used to love Wim Wenders and Wong Kar-Wai...
> looking back this was on the basis of a handful of films each, and
> since then they've made some stinkers. I suspect if I revisited these
> originals I might not enjoy them simply because the later stuff failed
> to live up to the promise.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 8:14 PM, Jemmy Bloocher <jbloocher at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Satyajit Ray? I'm pondering female directors, but Ray immediately popped
>> into my head.
>> 
>>> On 3 Jan 2016 05:42, "rich" <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> have u seen the Curious George/Herzog spoof? priceless
>>> 
>>> women directors: Lina Wertmuller's gotta be on that list
>>> 
>>> rich
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 10:33 PM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Geez, Herzog will keep you busy. But Aguirre and Fitzcarraldo,
>>>> absolutely unforgettable.
>>>> 
>>>> Will you be viewing each oeuvre chronologically?
>>>> 
>>>> Women I can think of that might make it onto a similar list would be
>>>> Claire Denis, Kathryn Bigelow (big contrast across her career), Jane
>>>> Campion, Chantal Akerman (RIP).
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> What a great list!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I forgot Herzog, though I don't like him all that much, but he is
>>>>> significant as a genre bender.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Corns, of course.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mallick is interesting but more for his influence (Revenant) than his
>>>>> achievement ... Is he a Christian apologist? I can't tell, but it's an
>>>>> interesting discussion.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I love Linklater ... Almost put him on the list, but didn't think of
>>>>> him
>>>>> until after "send " .... Great subject for further research.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been wanting to get into Barhrani since Ebert went out on a limb
>>>>> for
>>>>> him after his first film a decade ago.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Great list!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks so much for all the input so far. Definitely going to buy the
>>>>> Lynch
>>>>> on Lynch and will probably get the Lim book, too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We made the list on New Year's Eve, and it took several hours to do,
>>>>> and was
>>>>> great fun. Lots of arguments, diplomatic choices, etc. Like our own
>>>>> little
>>>>> climate talks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We ended up making choices that were some balance between directors we
>>>>> were
>>>>> interested in seeing for ourselves, directors we wanted the other
>>>>> person to
>>>>> see, and directors that felt uniquely important (or at least unique). I
>>>>> consider myself almost shockingly overschooled in post-1980 American
>>>>> cinema
>>>>> and really underschooled in pre-1980 American cinema plus most
>>>>> non-American
>>>>> stuff. There's not quite as much stuff on there that will fill those
>>>>> gaps as
>>>>> I'd like, which we are addressing in two ways:
>>>>> 
>>>>> One is that we are acknowledging we will just have to leave a few until
>>>>> 2017.
>>>>> Two is that we have an addendum list of directors with one or several
>>>>> movies
>>>>> we consider important to see, but who we are not totally committing to
>>>>> this
>>>>> year. E.g. The Seventh Seal is on the list, but Bergman's entire ouevre
>>>>> is
>>>>> not (maybe in 2017).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here's the list of we ended up with:
>>>>> Lynch
>>>>> Kubrick
>>>>> Herzog
>>>>> Todd Solondz
>>>>> Coen Bros.
>>>>> John Waters
>>>>> Terrence Malick
>>>>> Linklater
>>>>> Ramin Bahrani
>>>>> Woody Allen
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some of the choices are matters of convenience. Bahrani is young and
>>>>> unique,
>>>>> worth seeing in his own right (as I insisted) but also only has a few
>>>>> movies
>>>>> out, which counterbalances Allen/Herzog nicely.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Longlist included, off the top of my head: Gilliam, Ray, Bergman,
>>>>> Fellini,
>>>>> Welles, Spike Lee, Aronofsky, buncha others.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Definitely lots of glaring omissions. It obviously skews contemporary,
>>>>> American, white. No women on the list, which is really kind of
>>>>> unforgivable.
>>>>> We had Sofia Coppola and a few others on the long list. If anybody has
>>>>> any
>>>>> recommendations to that end I'd be very interested.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All the Mississippi interview books and the Faber and Faber books are
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> good mix of biography and aesthetics.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Suggested directors for your project could include:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Fincher
>>>>>> Hitchcock
>>>>>> Sophia Coppola
>>>>>> Wes and PT Anderson
>>>>>> Tarantino (lots of books on him ... I did two of them)
>>>>>> Jill Sprecher
>>>>>> Ophuls
>>>>>> Nick Ray
>>>>>> Sam Fuller
>>>>>> Renoir
>>>>>> Truffaut
>>>>>> Melville
>>>>>> Kurosawa
>>>>>> Mizoguchi
>>>>>> Tarkovsky
>>>>>> Bergman
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There's a new book by Dennis Lim, late of the Village Voice.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/David-Lynch-Another-Place-Icons/dp/0544343751
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A month or two ago I asked if anybody could recommend a Kubrick bio
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> you guys were all helpful (went with the Lobrutto, Mark T's rec).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm no wondering if anybody has a particular book (or books) on
>>>>>>>> Lynch
>>>>>>>> to recommend. Biography is desired. If the writer is insightful
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> Lynch's work that'd be a plus but I guess I'm a bit more interested
>>>>>>>> in Lynch
>>>>>>>> the guy, as person and artist. Want insight into what made the guy
>>>>>>>> make the
>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My girlfriend and I made a list of ten directors whose work we want
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> see all of, in order, before 2017. We're starting with Lynch.
>>>>>>>> Ideally I'd
>>>>>>>> like to read up on each director while we are watching his/her
>>>>>>>> stuff so I
>>>>>>>> will be checking back in.
>>>>>>>> 
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