Cologne sex attacks: women made to "run gauntlet"

[Robert Mahnke]

"Apocalyptic-minded Revolutionaries, who are Koran fundamentalist Islamist,
are trying to be as horrible to the world as they are able to be."

Agree completely, but I haven't seen any reason to think they had anything
to do with what happened in Koln.

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 2:54 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> Although Kai's statement sounds like it comes from an American Republican
> Presidential hopeful, I can relate to it on a basic level.
> Apocalyptic-minded Revolutionaries, who are Koran fundamentalist Islamist,
> are trying to be as horrible to the world as they are able to be.  Not all
> Muslims are such assholes, just as not all Christians are like Ted Cruz and
> his ilk.  Still, the texts these fundamentalist are devoted to support
> their hateful ways.  Texts are often the sanctioned product of a
> prevailing hierarchy that has squelched all dissenting views. The essential
> lesson is that often vital, living spiritual movement ossify into hateful
> dogmas.  Islam's vital spirit resides in Suffism.  Christianity has a
> history of Mystics too. Likewise Judaism.
>
> Hate the ossified manifestation and corruption of the vital spirit of all
> religions, not the religions themselves.
>
> David Morris
>
>
> On Friday, January 8, 2016, Robert Mahnke <rpmahnke at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kai, I have been trying to pay attention to this story, partly because
>> I change trains in Koln now and then and so it's easier for me to imagine
>> the scene.
>>
>> I wonder why you say your patience with Islam has come to an end, for a
>> few reasons.  One is that the English-language coverage I've seen has had
>> only scanty information about who the perpetrators might have been.  Are
>> they not relating facts that have been reported in German-language media?
>> But even where English-language sources have interviewed witnesses/victims,
>> I haven't seen much to suggest that the perpetrators were from any
>> particular ethnic group or religion.  I've seen suggestions that there were
>> people present of Arab or North African appearance, but that's been true of
>> that area when I've passed through.  And I don't get tie you see with
>> Islam.  Am pretty sure Islam frowns on what happened as much as
>> Christianity or Judaism would.
>>
>> So, curious about what I'm missing.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 1:25 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen <
>> lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/cologne-sex-attacks-women-made-to-run-gauntlet/news-story/c8a374824b163738853eb98daba9d2e6
>>>
>>> Similar things happened that night in Hamburg, Stuttgart, Bielefeld and
>>> other cities.
>>>
>>> My patience with Islam has come to an end.
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>>>
>>
>>
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