Cologne sex attacks: women made to "run gauntlet"

[David Morris]

I only hope to address more universal aspects of this conflict.

On Friday, January 8, 2016, Robert Mahnke <rpmahnke at gmail.com> wrote:

> "Apocalyptic-minded Revolutionaries, who are Koran fundamentalist
> Islamist, are trying to be as horrible to the world as they are able to be."
>
> Agree completely, but I haven't seen any reason to think they had anything
> to do with what happened in Koln.
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 2:54 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','fqmorris at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Although Kai's statement sounds like it comes from an American Republican
>> Presidential hopeful, I can relate to it on a basic level.
>> Apocalyptic-minded Revolutionaries, who are Koran fundamentalist Islamist,
>> are trying to be as horrible to the world as they are able to be.  Not all
>> Muslims are such assholes, just as not all Christians are like Ted Cruz and
>> his ilk.  Still, the texts these fundamentalist are devoted to support
>> their hateful ways.  Texts are often the sanctioned product of a
>> prevailing hierarchy that has squelched all dissenting views. The essential
>> lesson is that often vital, living spiritual movement ossify into hateful
>> dogmas.  Islam's vital spirit resides in Suffism.  Christianity has a
>> history of Mystics too. Likewise Judaism.
>>
>> Hate the ossified manifestation and corruption of the vital spirit of all
>> religions, not the religions themselves.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>>
>> On Friday, January 8, 2016, Robert Mahnke <rpmahnke at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rpmahnke at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kai, I have been trying to pay attention to this story, partly
>>> because I change trains in Koln now and then and so it's easier for me to
>>> imagine the scene.
>>>
>>> I wonder why you say your patience with Islam has come to an end, for a
>>> few reasons.  One is that the English-language coverage I've seen has had
>>> only scanty information about who the perpetrators might have been.  Are
>>> they not relating facts that have been reported in German-language media?
>>> But even where English-language sources have interviewed witnesses/victims,
>>> I haven't seen much to suggest that the perpetrators were from any
>>> particular ethnic group or religion.  I've seen suggestions that there were
>>> people present of Arab or North African appearance, but that's been true of
>>> that area when I've passed through.  And I don't get tie you see with
>>> Islam.  Am pretty sure Islam frowns on what happened as much as
>>> Christianity or Judaism would.
>>>
>>> So, curious about what I'm missing.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 1:25 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen <
>>> lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/cologne-sex-attacks-women-made-to-run-gauntlet/news-story/c8a374824b163738853eb98daba9d2e6
>>>>
>>>> Similar things happened that night in Hamburg, Stuttgart, Bielefeld and
>>>> other cities.
>>>>
>>>> My patience with Islam has come to an end.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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