(np) "Der Spiegel" knows what's good for the UK ...

[ish mailian]

I wonder if this all much ado about nothing much but what follows in
the wake of a crisis such as the one that we're still recovering from.
In the States, we've recovered: inflation is 2%, the Fed's Target. And
Unemployment is at the NAIRU, the Fed's target. Job done. In the Eu
you've still got a way to go, but that's to be expected. It will take
time. Could the Eu have done a better job? Sure. Even the US, where
the Fed has done a great job it was not flawless and of course we have
a messy fiscal policy because the President and Congress can't get to
first base, but things are improving. Brexit, if it happens, won't
mean a great deal. I'm betting it won't happen. Buy Stocks and the
dollar. Short the Euro and Bunds.

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
<lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>
> Correction: The dialogue itself is English, not the subtitles.
>
> Since you mention Greece, there's new empirical research on how Europeans
> feel ...
>
> http://www.pewglobal.org/2016/06/13/europeans-face-the-world-divided/
>
> While most Europeans consider ISIS to be the most serious threat to their
> country, for example 79% of the British and 85% of the Germans, the people
> of Greece (95%) see it in "global economic instability". While only 24% of
> the British and 25% of the Germans see in US power and influence a major
> threat to their country, it's 42% among the Greeks (--- still hard feelings
> about Goldman Sachs?). And of all the European nations it's the Greeks to
> whom a decidedly national perspective is most important: 83% - compare 52%
> in the UK and 40% in Germany - think that "our country should deal with its
> own problems and let other countries deal with their own problems as best as
> they can"; only 12% of the Greeks - Germans: 53%, British 43% - think that
> it is a good idea "to help other countries deal with their problems" ...
>
> All good EU compatriots, nicht wahr?
>
>
>
>
> On 15.06.2016 10:37, Kai Frederik Lorentzen wrote:
>>
>>
>>> anybody, even Germans, should tell the Brits what to do
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a38ahhWX-BU
>>
>> 2.13 - 2.42 (English subtitles)
>>
>>
>> On 15.06.2016 00:05, ish mailian wrote:
>>>
>>> Everybody and anybody, even Germans, should tell the Brits what to do.
>>> The Brits, of course, being Brits, will do exactly whatever they want.
>>> The Brits welcome a good argument, even from the outsider, not that
>>> they will listen. No harm, no foul. England can handle it. No need for
>>> the Germans to come to the rescue. The Greeks know what that does to
>>> people.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 5:44 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
>>> <lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Beside me I have the new print edition of "Der Spiegel" and I feel
>>>> extraordinarily disgusted. Why? They labeled it as a "Special" and they
>>>> have
>>>> translated all the articles relating to the Brexit referendum into
>>>> English
>>>> ("23 extra pages in English") so now the British people can read in
>>>> Germany's first news magazine what's best for them and, of course, for
>>>> Europe ... I guess that's exactly what folks in the UK have waited for,
>>>> no?
>>>> ... Listen to them: "It's smarter to stay. The choice is between a
>>>> moment of
>>>> pride and a new future built together ..." I don't know what's uglier,
>>>> the
>>>> whiner stuff - "If Britain leaves the EU on this side of the Atlantic
>>>> while
>>>> Donald Trump becomes president on the other, then seemingly permanent
>>>> alliances will wobble, and a weakened Europe would end up alone,
>>>> helpless
>>>> amid myriad global crisis" - or the detailed ideas about an adequate
>>>> British
>>>> behavior: "(S)hould the British vote against Brexit, perhaps by 55% or
>>>> 60%
>>>> rather than 50,1%, then that would be a mandate. Then the British should
>>>> stop doing the things that have irritated Europe for years: special
>>>> requests, self-pity and wretched haggling over every last detail."
>>>>
>>>> Nobody should tell the British what to do. Actually I envy them for the
>>>> opportunity to make a fundamental democratic choice on EU membership. I
>>>> don't know what I would vote for in such a situation, but I think all
>>>> peoples in the European Union should have the same right.
>>>>
>>>> And media campaigns like this are simply what they are.
>>>>
>>>>
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